Speculation: Mark Stone Mega-Thread - Part 3

[sasha barkov]

Nooooo Stone can't go to the isles bc i want rico to go there for their first

 

[Korpse]

The idea that the market would collapse was always far fetched. Dorion will have to come down from his ask but the fact that it still remains high shows how strong the market is. Question is how far will he have to come down.

 

[perronist]

what a soap opera

 

[Kranix]

Is Dorion more likely to want to ship him out of conference?

 

[General Disarray]

Ugh hopefully NOT Boston.

Honestly thinkg Calgary is dumb. Just pay the price. You're window is now. I don't see them having a season like this again for a while. You're in 1st place in the division. You have an easy matchup in round 1. Round 2 winner will be tired after a tough round 1. Then anything goes after that.

 

[HanSolo]

Come on now lou. Get us stone!

Best case scenario for me. Saves McPhee from himself. Calgary and Winnipeg miss. And I'd rather see the Isles get better than the Bruins.

 

[IceNeophyte]

The idea that the market would collapse was always far fetched. Dorion will have to come down from his ask but the fact that it still remains high shows how strong the market is. Question is how far will he have to come down.

Dorion ended up with much less than what VGK had offered for EK65 last trade deadline. It remaining so high could also be an indication of his frequent delusional evaluation of expiring contracts.

 

[Korpse]

Dorion ended up with much less than what VGK had offered for EK65 last trade deadline. It remaining so high could also be an indication of his frequent delusional evaluation of expiring contracts.

Have there been any actual reports on what VGK offered?

 

[madmike77]

Is Dorion more likely to want to ship him out of conference?

I think return would matter more than that. Ottawa isn’t contending any time soon so i doubt they care too much where he goes.

 

[Sensmileletsgo]

Is Dorion more likely to want to ship him out of conference?

Dorion has shown at tendency to do this, but at this point he should just trade Stone for the biggest return.

 

[HanSolo]

Lol GMs just aren't even remotely afraid of Dorion after the Karlsson trade.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Come on Dorion, be your clownish self and not deal him so everyone comes overpaying for Kreider... mwuhahahah.

 

[DCDM]

Ugh hopefully NOT Boston.

Honestly thinkg Calgary is dumb. Just pay the price. You're window is now. I don't see them having a season like this again for a while. You're in 1st place in the division. You have an easy matchup in round 1. Round 2 winner will be tired after a tough round 1. Then anything goes after that.

It's a thin line honestly. I'm sure the Flames recognize the opportunity they have this season, but trading a stud like Valimaki for what could end up being just a few months of Stone isn't something that keeps you competitive in the long run.

 

[treple13]

Honestly thinkg Calgary is dumb. Just pay the price. You're window is now. I don't see them having a season like this again for a while. You're in 1st place in the division. You have an easy matchup in round 1. Round 2 winner will be tired after a tough round 1. Then anything goes after that.

If we gave up what Ottawa was reportedly asking our window would only be now. We'd have no assets to give next year at the deadline and we'd have little in the way of cheap young players to fill in spots next year.

I'd much rather keep those assets and try and sign Stone in the summer if we have to.

We should have another couple of years of window before Gio declines and our core is still young. Tkachuk is only getting better and most of our D this year are rookies. No way they improve right?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Is Dorion more likely to want to ship him out of conference?

If the offers are all meh.. for sure

 

[IceNeophyte]

Have there been any actual reports on what VGK offered?

I forget the details, but IIRC it was some 5 or 6 pieces between players, prospects, picks, though precise details were never revealed. It is widely believed that Ottawa demanded Glass, and VGK wasn't fixin' to do that.

 

[HanSolo]

Have there been any actual reports on what VGK offered?

No, just reports that they had the better offer.

 

[madmike77]

Is Stone gonna walk as a UFA?

Can’t see any way that happens. That would definitely end Dorion’s job.

 

[Korpse]

I forget the details, but IIRC it was some 5 or 6 pieces between players, prospects, picks, though precise details were never revealed. It is widely believed that Ottawa demanded Glass, and VGK wasn't fixin' to do that.

Based on the deatials that you mentioned it really doesnt seem any better than the package they received in september. Of course a propsect like Glass or Branstrom would change that but all indications were they werent on the table.

 

[madmike77]

Ugh hopefully NOT Boston.

Honestly thinkg Calgary is dumb. Just pay the price. You're window is now. I don't see them having a season like this again for a while. You're in 1st place in the division. You have an easy matchup in round 1. Round 2 winner will be tired after a tough round 1. Then anything goes after that.

How is Calgary’s window now? They’ve got a lot of good young players locked up long term. They should be contending the next 3-4 years at least.

They aren’t in a situation where they need to go all-in.

 

[Sparky93]

Can’t see any way that happens. That would definitely end Dorion’s job.

Can’t see it, I believe he just signed an extension. No way Melnyk would pay 2 GM’s

 

[TSA0402]

I forget the details, but IIRC it was some 5 or 6 pieces between players, prospects, picks, though precise details were never revealed. It is widely believed that Ottawa demanded Glass, and VGK wasn't fixin' to do that.

Is Brannstrom even available? Forget about Glass....

 

[Gabe Kupari]

How is Calgary’s window now? They’ve got a lot of good young players locked up long term. They should be contending the next 3-4 years at least.

They aren’t in a situation where they need to go all-in.

They need a better goalie

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Maloney said Calgary was working on something big last night but it fell through, Boston got Coyle, and may have turned their attention on Staal. Jets who I thought were the favorites, have moved on to Hayes.

This to me leads me to believe it is VGK or the NY Isles. Dorion may have waited too long, and one of these 2 teams may slide on in and get Stone at a reasonable price. The longer this goes, some teams may go to plan B. Dorion needs to move fast.

 

[Snakepit]

Sorry, why is Calgary out?

Sens want Valimaki, I don't see the Flames trading Valimaki even for a signed Stone