Value of: Mark Scheifele

[gojetsgo]

Could be something here. Maybe add Ryan Mast to the package.

as pointed out it doesn't work for the jets

 

[Price is Wright]

as pointed out it doesn't work for the jets

So what would work out for you?

 

[elmaco]

They gonna keep Dubois and trade Scheifele. There is a cancer in that room, and it seems like Scheifele.

I've been thinking this for years, ever since i first saw Jets dressing room videos back in 2015 i thought that Scheifele's behaviour seemed somewhat "bullyish".

 

[Guffman]

Ok
Enjoy missing the playoffs in these and future playoffs

I don’t think I would want to see my team in the playoffs if they were going to get bludgeoned in the first round like the Bruins are.

 

[gojetsgo]

So what would work out for you?

an offer that is better then a middle six winger a lhd when we already have a logjam and a late 1st

 

[BKarchitect]

Please tell me the idea that adding Ryan Mast to an already derisory offer completely lacking in blue chip assets would put it over the top was said tongue in cheek…

 

[Heldig]

So what would work out for you?

As posted previously, the only way it makes sense for the jets is to include Carlos. Jets needs (especially after trading Scheifele):
1 - Top pairing RHD
2 - Top line 2 way RW
3 - 2C

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

I thought it might get your attention

How about making a proposal of your own then instead of crapping on other posters ?

How do you completely miss the point. At the very least Lysell and Lohrei are 100% on the table for a player like Scheifele. Just because they are Boston's best prospects that doesn't make them blue chip prospects.

 

[10Ducky10]

Scheif, Dillon and 2022 1st to Philly for Provorov, 2022 3rd and Konecny.

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

Scheif, Dillon and 2022 1st to Philly for Provorov, 2022 3rd and Konecny.

If we're packaging Scheifele and a pick in the low teens, why wouldn't we just go after a top-flight RHD? Even if one LHD goes, we still have a logjam. LHDs are absolutely out of the question, even if one is going the other way.

 

[10Ducky10]

If we're packaging Scheifele and a pick in the low teens, why wouldn't we just go after a top-flight RHD? Even if one LHD goes, we still have a logjam. LHDs are absolutely out of the question, even if one is going the other way.

Provorov Schmidt
JMo DD
Sammy Pionk
Stanimal/Kovs

 

[broc]

Scheif, Dillon and 2022 1st to Philly for Provorov, 2022 3rd and Konecny.

What? Uh, no

We not adding a 1st, and we sure don’t need a winger.

 

[10Ducky10]

What? Uh, no

We not adding a 1st, and we sure don’t need a winger.

Konecny would be great here and the type of player this team needs.
Who are your RWers going forward?

 

[Heldig]

Scheif, Dillon and 2022 1st to Philly for Provorov, 2022 3rd and Konecny.

Provorov is not the player the Jets should target.

Scheifele for Konecny + has possibilities.

 

[thedjpd]

Provorov is not the player the Jets should target.

Scheifele for Konecny + has possibilities.

Could work that. Plus wouldn’t be a huge one though, as again, Konecny is younger, signed longer, isn’t a locker room issue and has grit. Schiefele is a one dimensional player but it’s a great dimension. So I could get on board with Schiefele having more overall value but not a huge one. Konecny + Laughton, perhaps? Laughton isn’t the best C option but is a two way C who can put up 15G/40P in the right situation and role - of which he’s never had here. Closer to a 3C but still.

 

[Snowman]

Provorov is not the player the Jets should target.

Scheifele for Konecny + has possibilities.

I wouldn't mind the Jets picking up Konecny, but he would need a fairly significant add with him to make it worthwhile. Konecny is an okay complementary winger, but isn't needed or valuable enough to be the main piece for Scheifele and Philly would need to add a pretty big plus .

I agree with you on Provorov.

 

[gojetsgo]

Could work that. Plus wouldn’t be a huge one though, as again, Konecny is younger, signed longer, isn’t a locker room issue and has grit. Schiefele is a one dimensional player but it’s a great dimension. So I could get on board with Schiefele having more overall value but not a huge one. Konecny + Laughton, perhaps? Laughton isn’t the best C option but is a two way C who can put up 15G/40P in the right situation and role - of which he’s never had here. Closer to a 3C but still.

no....

 

[thedjpd]

no....

Okay. Seems like the Jets want an unquestionable 1RD or top flight winger for Schiefele, who is a 1C but not elite, AND has several question marks both as a player and as a person.

Good luck!

 

[gojetsgo]

Okay. Seems like the Jets want an unquestionable 1RD or top flight winger for Schiefele, who is a 1C but not elite, AND has several question marks both as a player and as a person.

Good luck!

yes, me saying no to konecny/laughton = me only wanting a number 1RHD/top flight winger and the issue with scheifele is accountability, which can be fixed by putting him on a team with good structure and a coach who actually holds players accountable for their play...

 

[thedjpd]

yes, me saying no to konecny/laughton = me only wanting a number 1RHD/top flight winger and the issue with scheifele is accountability, which can be fixed by putting him on a team with good structure and a coach who actually holds players accountable for their play...

It’s not you specifically. It’s an aggregation of the responses for Schiefele’s value by Jets fans in this thread. I’ve seen some pretty good offers here and it’s been responded with “a clean no” meaning expectations are higher. And that’s fine.

To respond to your post, lacking accountability is a BIG issue, not a small one. And certainly includes a pretty decent risk on the receiving team because it’s pure speculation if their structure will enable him to thrive as well.

So, your statement kind of alluded to why he’s not receiving packages perhaps on expectations.

I will say this: players with locker room question marks and accountability questions lose value over time, not gain. Mark Scheifele had a lot more value as a 26 year old PPG center and 5 years left without question marks than he does as a 29 year old PPG with 2 years left and considerable questions.

 

[gojetsgo]

It’s not you specifically. It’s an aggregation of the responses for Schiefele’s value by Jets fans in this thread. I’ve seen some pretty good offers here and it’s been responded with “a clean no” meaning expectations are higher. And that’s fine.

To respond to your post, lacking accountability is a BIG issue, not a small one. And certainly includes a pretty decent risk on the receiving team because it’s pure speculation if their structure will enable him to thrive as well.

So, your statement kind of alluded to why he’s not receiving packages perhaps on expectations.

it would be an issue if they were trying to hold him accountable and he was just ignoring it... it's pure speculation that he's some sort of locker room cancer

 

[thedjpd]

it would be an issue if they were trying to hold him accountable and he was just ignoring it... it's pure speculation that he's some sort of locker room cancer

Speculation is all we get as fans. However, these things rarely start from nothing.

 

[10Ducky10]

Provorov is not the player the Jets should target.

Scheifele for Konecny + has possibilities.

Provorov or JMo can always be moved.
Provorov, Konecny and a 3rd is good value for Scheif, Dillon and a 3rd.

If it is Scheif for Konecny, the Flyers' add is substantial.

 

[gojetsgo]

Speculation is all we get as fans. However, these things rarely start from nothing.

it's starting from a disappointing season and is getting way overblown...

 

[Thechozen1]

Provorov or JMo can always be moved.
Provorov, Konecny and a 3rd is good value for Scheif, Dillon and a 3rd.

If it is Scheif for Konecny, the Flyers' add is substantial.

I’d add Dillon and Ves to Scheifele for Konecny and their 1st. Without their 1st, there’s no deal for me.