Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose 3-1 to Columbus

[LeafsMonster]

I love Babcock

reporter: what would you say about the fan value about the game?
Babcock: "well i'll grab a beer with my wife and ask her then let you know. Why are you asking me that?

nicee

 

[saltming]

I love Babcock

reporter: what would you say about the fan value about the game?
Babcock: "well i'll grab a beer with my wife and ask her then let you know. Why are you asking me that?

Was that Simmons?

 

[Maplebeasts]

I am curious to see him in NHL, but I think it is best for him to finish off with the marlies and a deep playoff run!.

I think he could also benefit from NHL time, while joining the Marlies in the playoffs. (Everyone knows the Leafs aren't making it there) Of course this would be contingent on us moving at least a couple of bodies out by the tdl, and Nylander staying healthy after recovering from his concussion.

 

[Schenn]

I am curious to see him in NHL, but I think it is best for him to finish off with the marlies and a deep playoff run!.

I'd like to see Nylander brought up for 3-5 games this season assuming his head is back on straight. Just a sample.

 

[Daisy Jane]

Was that Simmons?

no - i didn't recognize the voice.

some stats

Bernier wasn't getting run support in his first seven+ games (7 goals total)
Reimer hasn't been getting run support is last seven games (7 goals)

y'all. it is happening.
Babcock can't will them goals.

 

[Suntouchable13]

I think he could also benefit from NHL time, while joining the Marlies in the playoffs. (Everyone knows the Leafs aren't making it there) Of course this would be contingent on us moving at least a couple of bodies out by the tdl, and Nylander staying healthy after recovering from his concussion.

Yea, I'd be shocked if Nylander does not get a taste of NHL action before the Leafs season is done. Give him a taste, see what it's like. Especially in games during March and April.

 

[Cor]

We are not going to score that much with JVR out.

Kadri, Parenteau, Leo, Bozak will generate some, but that's not exactly an all-star crew

 

[Daisy Jane]

We are not going to score that much with JVR out.

Kadri, Parenteau, Leo, Bozak will generate some, but that's not exactly an all-star crew

Liar.
that could totally challenge the Marlies

 

[Le Cobra]

next few guys coming up should be:

1. Nikita Soshnikov
2. Zach Hyman
3. Jeremy Morin

I am hoping they bring up all three after the TDL. That should bring some new life into this team.

 

[teeder333*]

That is a lot of new people, Babcock loves structure. If Keefe is doing the same thing well, could be good.

We saw tonight that the Leafs really didn't play the Babcock game till it was deep into the third.

Its no secret its very, very hard work, intelligence, and patience. Well u cannot be patient being down by two goals.

Reason Babcock doesn't kill a team till the playoffs is he lets fourth liners have ten minutes of playing time. Wilson and Cardoofus didn't do that and killed a team by the xmas break.

 

[champs*]

I seen an interview with Keefe and he said the marlies are learning all of babcock's systems. Talks to babcock daily and the team watches leafs and red wings videos to help learn. All players coming up are all familiar with babs systems.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Didn't watch the game tonight.. Sounds like it was pretty painful to watch. Goal scoring could be drying up and with JVR that's a big blow. Although based on the comments here the Leafs barely showed up?

 

[Apotheosis]

Didn't watch the game tonight.. Sounds like it was pretty painful to watch. Goal scoring could be drying up and with JVR that's a big blow. Although based on the comments here the Leafs barely showed up?

- They could barely move the puck compared to previous games. They would string a few passes together but never really got into troubling areas for Columbus to actually worry about.

- Shots were never troubling the Columbus goalie at all.

- Lacked the intensity we're used to this season.

Only positive was that Reimer played pretty good, but that won't mean much while JVR is out since our offence looks dried up without him in the line up.

 

[ANDI P IS CUTE]

didnt see game- how did they lose to a third string goalie and crap team?

 

[ANDI P IS CUTE]

5 straight losses after chicago, boston- who they play after that?

somethings gonna give this month for sure.

 

[champs*]

didnt see game- how did they lose to a third string goalie and crap team?

what are you talking about, columbus won?

 

[PuckMagi]

Here are a few reasons why I think we lost:

1) Grabner sucks and as a result, the whole line is not effective. Put Leivo, Lupul, or Winnik in his spot and there will be a huge improvement.

2) The Bozak line kind of sucks without JVR. I think that Parenteau has been getting pretty lucky to put up the types of numbers that he's getting. He just seems to get the puck in nice spots and seems to randomly shoot pucks in nets. But I think he's getting points based off the play of JVR and Bozak. Once you replace JVR with Matthias, the line just isn't any good anymore.

1 + 2 = our top two lines kind of suck

3) Our third line isn't clicking. Not really sure why, but it's just not working. Maybe try moving Holland to the wing and let someone else play center (Komorov? Matthias? Arcobello? Winnik?).

4) Froese sucks. I have no idea why he is still playing. The first deflected goal was deflected by his man... so if that goal was anyone's fault, it was his. It make no sense because his spot could be used by someone like Arcobello who we might be able to flip for a late draft pick at the deadline.

1+2+3+4 = All our lines suck

5) Hunwick also sucks. Not as bad as Froese, but Hunwick is never going to be good. In the second goal, he didn't cover the front of the net and chased someone out of position. Ya, someone should have covered for him, but still.

Let's look at +/- ... I love this stat even though it's fallen out of favour. Froese leads the team with -9. Followed by Lupul at -8... Then Holland and Hunwick at -7. Hunwick also has 22 penalty minutes. He has no goals and only 5 assists. Look at Rielly his partner... Rielly has 19 points, he's only a minus 1, and has taken just 6 penalty minutes. Do you know who has the best plus minus on the Leafs right now??? Polak! at +9

So I think Froese, Hunwick, and Grabner are our weak links.

I would shake things up a bit for next game:

Leivo - Kadri - Lupul
Matthias - Bozak - Holland
Winnik - Komorov - Parenteau
Grabner - Arcobello - Boyes

Gardiner - Phaneuf
Rielly - Polak
Marincin - Hunwick

Reimer
Bernier

 

[ANDI P IS CUTE]

Here are a few reasons why I think we lost:

1) Grabner sucks and as a result, the whole line is not effective. Put Leivo, Lupul, or Winnik in his spot and there will be a huge improvement.

2) The Bozak line kind of sucks without JVR. I think that Parenteau has been getting pretty lucky to put up the types of numbers that he's getting. He just seems to get the puck in nice spots and seems to randomly shoot pucks in nets. But I think he's getting points based off the play of JVR and Bozak. Once you replace JVR with Matthias, the line just isn't any good anymore.

1 + 2 = our top two lines kind of suck

3) Our third line isn't clicking. Not really sure why, but it's just not working. Maybe try moving Holland to the wing and let someone else play center (Komorov? Matthias? Arcobello? Winnik?).

4) Froese sucks. I have no idea why he is still playing. The first deflected goal was deflected by his man... so if that goal was anyone's fault, it was his. It make no sense because his spot could be used by someone like Arcobello who we might be able to flip for a late draft pick at the deadline.

1+2+3+4 = All our lines suck

5) Hunwick also sucks. Not as bad as Froese, but Hunwick is never going to be good. In the second goal, he didn't cover the front of the net and chased someone out of position. Ya, someone should have covered for him, but still.

Let's look at +/- ... I love this stat even though it's fallen out of favour. Froese leads the team with -9. Followed by Lupul at -8... Then Holland and Hunwick at -7. Hunwick also has 22 penalty minutes. He has no goals and only 5 assists. Look at Rielly his partner... Rielly has 19 points, he's only a minus 1, and has taken just 6 penalty minutes. Do you know who has the best plus minus on the Leafs right now??? Polak! at +9

So I think Froese, Hunwick, and Grabner are our weak links.

I would shake things up a bit for next game:

Leivo - Kadri - Lupul
Matthias - Bozak - Holland
Winnik - Komorov - Parenteau
Grabner - Arcobello - Boyes

Gardiner - Phaneuf
Rielly - Polak
Marincin - Hunwick

Reimer
Bernier

babs loves hunwick.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Toronto Maple Leafs head coach Mike Babcock addresses the media following Toronto's 3-1 loss against Columbus on Wednesday night.

 

[Pucker77]

I expect a close game. Could go either way.

Toronto Maple Leafs head coach Mike Babcock addresses the media following Toronto's 3-1 loss against Columbus on Wednesday night.

I got scared when he said "i think Matty had a good game tonight, probably his best." Because my mind immediately thought Matty meant Matt Hunwick. I was afraid that Babcock hit his head or something.

Luckily a reporter asked "which Matty? Hunwick or Matthias?" And Babcock responded with "Shawn, the one playing on the wing."

 

[ULF_55]

Here are a few reasons why I think we lost:

1) Grabner sucks and as a result, the whole line is not effective. Put Leivo, Lupul, or Winnik in his spot and there will be a huge improvement.

2) The Bozak line kind of sucks without JVR. I think that Parenteau has been getting pretty lucky to put up the types of numbers that he's getting. He just seems to get the puck in nice spots and seems to randomly shoot pucks in nets. But I think he's getting points based off the play of JVR and Bozak. Once you replace JVR with Matthias, the line just isn't any good anymore.

1 + 2 = our top two lines kind of suck

3) Our third line isn't clicking. Not really sure why, but it's just not working. Maybe try moving Holland to the wing and let someone else play center (Komorov? Matthias? Arcobello? Winnik?).

4) Froese sucks. I have no idea why he is still playing. The first deflected goal was deflected by his man... so if that goal was anyone's fault, it was his. It make no sense because his spot could be used by someone like Arcobello who we might be able to flip for a late draft pick at the deadline.

1+2+3+4 = All our lines suck

5) Hunwick also sucks. Not as bad as Froese, but Hunwick is never going to be good. In the second goal, he didn't cover the front of the net and chased someone out of position. Ya, someone should have covered for him, but still.

Let's look at +/- ... I love this stat even though it's fallen out of favour. Froese leads the team with -9. Followed by Lupul at -8... Then Holland and Hunwick at -7. Hunwick also has 22 penalty minutes. He has no goals and only 5 assists. Look at Rielly his partner... Rielly has 19 points, he's only a minus 1, and has taken just 6 penalty minutes. Do you know who has the best plus minus on the Leafs right now??? Polak! at +9

So I think Froese, Hunwick, and Grabner are our weak links.

I would shake things up a bit for next game:

Leivo - Kadri - Lupul
Matthias - Bozak - Holland
Winnik - Komorov - Parenteau
Grabner - Arcobello - Boyes

Gardiner - Phaneuf
Rielly - Polak
Marincin - Hunwick

Reimer
Bernier

Not going to argue with your position here, but I would sum it up with they lack talent.

IMO, two players in your line-up would qualify as top 6, Kadri and Bozak, and 3 top 4 defenders, Phaneuf, Rielly and Gardiner.

They really do deserve their current place in the standings, so no one should be disappointed.

 

[canadon]

5 straight losses after chicago, boston- who they play after that?

somethings gonna give this month for sure.

I actually feel the Leafs will win on Friday...

 

[thewave]

Babcock should go for broke and dump Leivo in JVRs place. Put him in the fire and get it over with Babs.

 

[Daisy Jane]

didnt see game- how did they lose to a third string goalie and crap team?

easy. we're a crap team too.

 

[showtime8]

Babcock should go for broke and dump Leivo in JVRs place. Put him in the fire and get it over with Babs.

Leivo works hard and goes to the net. I don't see why this wouldn't be a decent opportunity for that to happen.