Confirmed with Link: Leafs extend Keefe

[Fogelhund]

It's amazing that we have an AHL coach, have had AHL GM's, and AHL players, and somehow have managed to have the 4th best record in the NHL, for the last full three seasons.

That's elite level NHL performance right there in the regular season, so perhaps some credit where credit is due. Everyone involved, has delivered one of the best Leafs teams that you'll see in your lifetime, some elite talent, and elite regular season results.

Having said that, we haven't been near good enough in the playoffs, and that's where it counts, so some changes are needed... but just because we haven't had the final success we all want, doesn't mean that we haven't witnessed elite levels of a team, and those coaches, GM's, and players are better than you give them credit for.

 

[Dekes For Days]

It's amazing that we have an AHL coach, have had AHL GM's, and AHL players, and somehow have managed to have the 4th best record in the NHL, for the last full three seasons.

The coach gets good results, but he's really just leeching off of the great group of players, so he gets no credit.
The GM who assembled the great group of players gets no credit either, because it's really just the core that makes us good.
But also, our core sucks and we should trade them away.

#HFlogic

 

[Amadeus]

I think we should give Torts a blank check. That man would change everything. It's not the roster. Dubas left an amazing core. We should get Torts before Treliving ruins everything.

Marner and Matthews will be asking out in under a year.

 

[IPS]

The GM who assembled the great group of players gets no credit either

Except Dubas didn't assemble any of the team's best players.

 

[ACC1224]

Marner and Matthews will be asking out in under a year.

I don't see why that would be the case.

Why would anyone think that?

 

[authentic]

I don't think those guys are afraid of hard work. Torts will take them to a new level. He knows what it takes to win. True Toronto legends answer the call. Everyone remembers how Lecavalier hated Torts until they won the Cup.

I would honestly be all for it

 

[ToneDog]

The coach gets good results, but he's really just leeching off of the great group of players, so he gets no credit.
The GM who assembled the great group of players gets no credit either, because it's really just the core that makes us good.
But also, our core sucks and we should trade them away.

#HFlogic

And then there is their 1-7 playoff series record which apparently did not impress Keon.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Marner and Matthews will be asking out in under a year.

Good, I want nothing to do with Marner’s next contract.

 

[ToneDog]

Marner and Matthews will be asking out in under a year.

If they shit the bed in April, let's hope they ask out in May.

 

[ToneDog]

Good, I want nothing to do with Marner’s next contract.

If this management team had any guts, they should tell him to GTFO and go look elsewhere. How many teams out there are willing to pay this guy $11mx8? Only one team dumb enough to pay that much to a player who disappears in games 5-7 of playoff series. Take away Matthews and this guy is a PPG at best IMO.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

One thing I find odd is even if he's the best coach on the planet, the playoff record should have gotten him canned by now.

At some point, you need results.

 

[Egghead1999]

It's amazing that we have an AHL coach, have had AHL GM's, and AHL players, and somehow have managed to have the 4th best record in the NHL, for the last full three seasons.

That's elite level NHL performance right there in the regular season, so perhaps some credit where credit is due. Everyone involved, has delivered one of the best Leafs teams that you'll see in your lifetime, some elite talent, and elite regular season results.

Having said that, we haven't been near good enough in the playoffs, and that's where it counts, so some changes are needed... but just because we haven't had the final success we all want, doesn't mean that we haven't witnessed elite levels of a team, and those coaches, GM's, and players are better than you give them credit for.

Here is a funny fact. a good AHL coach should be able to prepare players for playing the pro game. Leafs do not lose a game because they are out-man or out-talent. They lost the game because players made fundamental or careless mistakes, as OTT or BUF did.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Except Dubas didn't assemble any of the team's best players.

Not true, but thank you for demonstrating the second stage that was outlined:

The GM who assembled the great group of players gets no credit either, because it's really just the core that makes us good.