McKenzie: Leafs don't want to, but may be forced to trade 2021 1st.

[Stuzchuk]

Now that the Leafs have a 2020 1st agaI wonder if they are open to moving their 2021 1st

Ryan Ellis?

 

[periferal]

So theres this guy on the Sens. Name rhymes with Kaitsev

Not sure who you're referring to. Can you be a bit more clear?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Ryan Ellis?

I doubt Nashville would move him but sure

 

[I am Canadian]

I'd rather trade that then 15th overall this year.

Just make sure it's top 10 protected

 

[Habs Halifax]

I'd rather trade that then 15th overall this year.

Just make sure it's top 10 protected

Fair but you won't get the same value if you try to move the 2021 1st instead. Most would consider that to be 20-30 range.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Dubas is going to wait on draft night and see if Braden Schneider is available at 15 before making any moves, and then trade down for more picks.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

Pittsburgh says "hold my beer."

Damn, now the rings are coming off.

 

[Stickpucker]

They're going to have the worst farm system in the game at this rate.

Pittsburgh says hi.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Dubas is going to wait on draft night and see if Braden Schneider is available at 15 before making any moves, and then trade down for more picks.

Probably, it's actually annoying how predictable that is

 

[kevsh]

I think Dubas is hoping to parlay 15OA for help on the blue line first. If that doesn't materialize he hopes Schneider is available. If not, Dubas may try and trade down and parlay that pick into blue line help.

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

Pretty sure any team would trade a late first for a young top 4 dman

 

[KickHisAssZegrass]

Dubas is going to wait on draft night and see if Braden Schneider is available at 15 before making any moves, and then trade down for more picks.

Or... he trades it to Ana for Manson

 

[RealityHurts]

I mean.. if they want a defensively reliable Top 4 D man, it's gonna cost more than a 2021 1st round projected to be in 20-30 range. At that range, finding a top 4 NHL d-man can already be considered a good pick. Not to mention, people are saying the 2021 crop isn't that good.

Leafs have to pay the price for a good D-man. That price can be anything from this year's 1st to one of their talented forwards... Of course, if it's the forwards, then it would likely be a top 2 D-man unless the opposite side gives more. A lot of people here are far too optimistic or greedy about possibilities

Your best outcome would be to find your own Josi/Hedman/Heiskanen caliber player even if it means giving away a great forward.

 

[GM Armchair]

Just don’t really see a lot of young top 4 defenceman with term going to be floating around a lot during the flat cap. Could be expensive if some do shake loose.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Pretty sure any team would trade a late first for a young top 4 dman

This is a mid 1st

 

[Funk21]

Dubas knows he needs to fix his defense, but doesn't have the guts to actually make a trade that he should make, to fix it.

He needs a Drouin for Sergachev type move, but just seems to love hoarding his forwards.

Well said. A year or so back I had already suggested the Pesce for Nylander deal when Nylander was holding out. Look I like all our forwards That are part of the core but fundamentally we are a flawed team and need to trade some of that upfront talent to put together a D Corp that is somewhat competent.

We have had one of the worst D Corp for a team that finished with close to 100 or above points the two previous seasons. Our reliance on Andersen has been our Achilles heel in each of the past three seasons. By addressing our D concerns we could alleviate some of the pressure on our goaltending situation.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Well said. A year or so back I had already suggested the Pesce for Nylander deal when Nylander was holding out. Look I like all our forwards That are part of the core but fundamentally we are a flawed team and need to trade some of that upfront talent to put together a D Corp that is somewhat competent.

We have had one of the worst D Corp for a team that finished with close to 100 or above points the two previous seasons. Our reliance on Andersen has been our Achilles heel in each of the past three seasons. By addressing our D concerns we could alleviate some of the pressure on our goaltending situation.

If the Leafs needed astar on defense I might agree but I don't think they do.

I think 2 of Savard Manson Larsson Hjalmarsson Risto Hamonic Brodie Pietrangelo Gudas Tanev, Letang etc. Would be good enough

 

[trellaine201]

After that Barrie trade Dubas should be fun shy.

 

[Estlin]

After that Barrie trade Dubas should be fun shy.

What's wrong with having fun?

 

[Judas Tavares]

Dubas is going to wait on draft night and see if Braden Schneider is available at 15 before making any moves, and then trade down for more picks.

I see him moving down, but it not being dependent on Schneider.

I'll say this, us Leaf fans always overhype our draft picks (as all fans of all teams do). But there are so many Leaf fans enamored with Schneider cause he fills a specific need, that these people will be anointing a future #1 RHD.

It's great to be able to fill a need when it is BPA or you are working in a draft where the need is the strength of the draft. But when the need is the major weakness of the draft, oh you are asking for trouble.

 

[crashthenet]

Dubas should keep the pick. I am sure the next GM will appreciate having a 20 year old prospect ready to play pro hockey.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Pittsburgh says hi.

And SJ

 

[Djp]

So Bobby Mack was on the radio on Leafs Lunch today and he said that they are looking very hard for a D man with term and that while they don't want to trade their 2021 1st especially. Since they didn't have one last year they may not have a choice because the Marlies have been depleted since most of them are now NHL players.

Look it's not ideal but I'm OK with it because deapite what some will tell you the Leafs are in full on go for it mode and should be, their top 9 is locked up, the backup goaltending, which was a MAJOR problem is fixed for this season and next.

The 2021 pick won't be as high as this pick could be because you won't have Michael Hutchinson pissing away points like he did this season.

So if you can use the 2021 1st to get a RHD with term why not?

It's the last major hole they have.

You will not get an ED exempt Dman with 2021 1st

You might be able t get a RD from a team who has 4+ Dmen expansion eligible and they only plan on protecting 3 but has RD farm help. Likely this player has 2-3 yrs left in terms of contract

 

[krutovsdonut]

leafs have hit a wall where they are now making suicidal moves that an aging cup winner would make to keep a proven core together. they should accept reality and trade tavares primarily for picks and use that cap space in the ufa market this year.

 

[sxvnert]

and now they have a 1st. I believe Dubas is after two RDs. He'll go hard after Pietrangelo for the top RD and use the 1st to acquire the #2 RD.

Rielly Pietrangelo
Muzzin (#2 RD)
Sandin Holl