Confirmed Trade: [LAK/TOR] Jake Muzzin for 2019 1st round pick, Sean Durzi, and Carl Grundstrom

[Leaf Fans]

There is a great greater chance that the asssets acquired by the kings ammount to nothing of value compared to the value of the asset they sold.

Why would anyone want the Kings to get nothing of value. It is a trade. The Kings should get good futures and the Leafs should get a good player for the present. That is what a trade is all about.

 

[Michoulicious]

Apparently Muzzin plays both sides?

He says that he can do it, apparently.

However, he never did it in his professional or junior career AFAIK. I don't think it is a great idea.

My guess is they will try Rielly at RHD first, and see from there.

 

[A1LeafNation]

From what I've read, Hainsey doesn't even belong in the NHL anymore!

Sounds like you read too much HFboards...

 

[The don godfather]

Muzzin was on the top pair of Stanley cup winner. Really neat that you know where you live though, it's important to know where you live.

McDonough and hedman vs Reilly and muzzin . It's not even close. It's an upgrade but no way leafs beat Tampa. Leafs need more help back there if they want to get rid of 1967 chant.

 

[A1LeafNation]

He says that he can do it, apparently.

However, he never did it in his professional or junior career AFAIK. I don't think it is a great idea.

My guess is they will try Rielly at RHD first, and see from there.

I think another move is comimg with Carolina

 

[LeafsNation75]

He gets to play 2nd and 3rd lines now..not top lines.

Maybe we won't know the answer until their next game in Detroit but will Hainsey still be on the Leafs penalty kill or not?

 

[Canada4Gold]

As far as my opinion on the trade, I think it's solid value, for both teams. I really liked Grundstrom and he's one of our few prospects who plays a physical game, so I'm sad to see him go. I wasn't in love with Durzi and believe it or not there's a logjam of D in that age range on the Marlies next year. He would have been the 3rd highest guy on that totem pole, but he was obviously expendable. I wanted Calen Addison so much more with that pick and would have had him off limits instead. The 1st is a 1st, it'll make the draft less interesting to watch but, it's a necessary evil a lot of times. I would have protected it for sure, it's not that much value lost for LA because lets be real there's maybe a 0.1% chance we miss and win a lottery, but it's not something as the trading team you'd leave open to happening.

All in all, it's the cost of doing business, and LA got some high value lottery tickets. A lot of the "winner" determination comes from that and if the Leafs win the cup this year or next but in terms of a winner now I'd call it pretty even maybe slightly in the Leafs favour because they avoided giving up a roster player/Lil/Sandin when a lot of people were speculating they needed to.

 

[rent free]

My father was shoveling snow and I ran outside to tell him and we both started jumping up and down and ended up rolling around in the snow celebrating!

lucky you, i had to shovel snow after i heard about this news

 

[Michoulicious]

I think another move is comimg with Carolina

That would be great. Kadri + 2nd for Pesce.

 

[Gally11]

So many bitter fans wishing their team couldn't get this done

I do wish we couldn't get this done

All the same decent trade for both sides

 

[goosh]

Man, I'm gonna miss Muzz. Definitely the Kings' best dman this year. Character guy, can play in all situations, a #2 guy for sure. Great pick-up for Toronto.

Blake needed to make this deal, though. The Kings needa get younger and would've been in a cap bind trying to re-sign Jake. Very pleased with the return.

 

[Maple Leaf]

McDonough and hedman vs Reilly and muzzin . It's not even close. It's an upgrade but no way leafs beat Tampa. Leafs need more help back there if they want to get rid of 1967 chant.

Leafs can beat tampa
Go back to the dungeon

 

[koyvoo]

Why would anyone want the Kings to get nothing of value. It is a trade. The Kings should get good futures and the Leafs should get a good player for the present. That is what a trade is all about.

And it’s a much greater risk for the team who sells a guaranteed asset for possibilities.

 

[Kingsfan1]

I like this haul for the Kings but now Muzzin is being underrated . He is a great top 4 dman and can play top 2 . He puts up 40+ points in the Kings system watch him hit 60 next year on the Leafs. Maybe he won’t turn a series in favor of the Leafs but he can definitely win a series for the Leafs by making a difference on a few plays.

Leafs going for it . Good luck

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

If Hainsey has been "fine", Muzzin will be "Bobby Orr" good in comparison.

Hainsey will still play PK minutes, but now in a bottom pairing role 5 on 5. He won't have to play against top competition. That's a big win.

What is so hard to understand?

Got it , a 2 or 3 Dman on a last place team....actually a poor to meh team for few years suddenly a great addition. We'll see. But again, so many think the other teams Dmen are so much better than the Leafs.

 

[LeafsNation75]

I would have protected it for sure, it's not that much value lost for LA because lets be real there's maybe a 0.1% chance we miss and win a lottery, but it's not something as the trading team you'd leave open to happening.

Maybe that's something Dubas tried to do and Blake said the 1st round pick could not be conditional. In the end this trade shows that Dubas is willing to go for it which is a lot more than we can say about Lou Lamoreillo and the trades he made prior to the deadline in his 3 years as the Leafs GM.

 

[The Great Weal]

Hainsey is better as the Leafs #4 defenseman compared to playing with Reilly.

Now I also know they had Crosby, Malkin and Kessel but didn't Hainsey play as a #2 defenseman when he won the Cup with Pittsburgh in 2017, with a defense core that was worse than Toronto's and was missing Kris Letang.

Of course Hainsey is better as the Leafs #4. Heck he would be even better on the bottom pair. That doesn't mean the defense is good.

Oh come on. Crosby and Malkin are generational centers. I absolutely hate the word generational but Crosby and Malkin are generational. Matthews and Tavares are franchise centers, but they aren't generational. That's a completely different situation. I also believe that a rested Matt Murray helped them out BIG TIME. Rested goalies typically do really well in the playoffs.

 

[Fishhead]

Luckily......Rielly can also play on the right side, where he's done well.

Muzzin doesn't have to.

That will benefit Muzzin greatly, he will elevate if he's played with a good partner. He and Doughty were lights out a lot of the time he was put together. He just doesn't do well when he's the square peg in the round hole.

 

[mitchthemitch]

I wanted to say I am happy for u that u upgraded the defense and i think he ll make u happy in the long run. Can u give me a honest scouting report on the two newest kings please i trust ur opinion on them

Grundstrom is an all round good winger, with top 6 potential. Not very dazzling but he's gritty and I think would fit in LA. He hasn't played a full year in the A, but theres an argument that could be made that he is nhl ready. If the Kings are weak on the wings you can expect him on the team this season and latest by September. With Durzi, it's a bit more of a mystery. He has nhl potential, but he's a long way from it. He's an overager in the CHL and he's just starting to get hot. It'd take a few years to get a more accurate potential on him. As a Leafs fan, losing Grundstrom sucks, but he was never going to get a fair chance with the leafs.

 

[uncleben]

We aren’t bare. Moore, Hollowell, Engvall, Rosen, Woll, Scott, Liljgren, Sandin. That’s not empty

Not empty, but not one to write home about

 

[Leaf Fans]

From what I've read, Hainsey doesn't even belong in the NHL anymore!

Well, I disagree with the authours you have read. Hainsey is a good defenceman. I think he will really benefit playing lower in the lineup, and if he is paired with Dermott, he will benefit also.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Of course Hainsey is better as the Leafs #4. Heck he would be even better on the bottom pair. That doesn't mean the defense is good.

Oh come on. Crosby and Malkin are generational centers. I absolutely hate the word generational but Crosby and Malkin are generational. Matthews and Tavares are franchise centers, but they aren't generational. That's a completely different situation. I also believe that a rested Matt Murray helped them out BIG TIME. Rested goalies typically do really well in the playoffs.

Penguins lotteried their way to the cup everyone knows that big deal

 

[SprDaVE]

Got it , a 2 or 3 Dman on a last place team....actually a poor to meh team for few years suddenly a great addition. We'll see. But again, so many think the other teams Dmen are so much better than the Leafs.

An individuals abilities are not equal to a teams abilities, or lack there of.

Many things are wrong with the Kings, and Muzzins abilities are not one of them.

 

[Leaf Fans]

And it’s a much greater risk for the team who sells a guaranteed asset for possibilities.

It sure is.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

He says that he can do it, apparently.

However, he never did it in his professional or junior career AFAIK. I don't think it is a great idea.

My guess is they will try Rielly at RHD first, and see from there.

Is Rielly ambidextrous?