Speculation: Laine/Ehlers Mega Thread

[Linds]

First off I'm a neutral fan, so I don't have a horse in this race.
I think this is a good basis of a trade for each team, maybe there's a couple picks going either way, Let me know what you think.

Florida is going to lose Hoffman and Dadanov
From their top 6 forward core, and their defense is pretty average, but expensive.
Jets have 2 NHL defencemen and desperately need help, if it wasn't for Hellebuyck having a vezina season, the jets are drafting top 10.
With all that being said does a 1 for 1 hockey trade work?

Jets: Ekblad
Florida: Laine


Jets: Ekblad

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[Jean Luc Discard]

Sounds great but from where does the Panthers acquire another Ekblad?

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Decent trade I think

 

[Neuf]

The Jets are drafting top ten...

At a glance I dislike it...how's Ekblad's concussions these days? Looks like he's been healthy lately?

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Logical trade for Winnipeg. Reallocating cap from a position of strength to a position of need and using a player with an uncertain long-term contractual situation to do it makes sense.

I don't get it for Florida. That defense sans Ekblad would be atrocious. Also, Ekblad has certainty with his long-term contractual situation.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

FLAs Defense after:

Matheson - Weegar
Stillman - Stralman
Yandle - Brown
Keeper

From bottom 5 defense and beyond....all because Laine is BFF with Barkov.

Ekblad > Laine when factoring in positional need for FLA and way better contract going forward between the two

 

[Mickey Marner]

The Jets are drafting top ten...

At a glance I dislike it...how's Ekblad's concussions these days? Looks like he's been healthy lately?

Ekblad's played in 458/479 available games in his career. I think the concussions are a bit overblown.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Sounds great but from where does the Panthers acquire another Ekblad?

By trading Laine?

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

As much as Laine would be great in Florida, The Panthers are in no position to trade Ekblad at the moment.

 

[violaswallet]

Florida fans: NO.

Consider our needs: our weakness is defense and Ekblad is our best, young defenseman signed to a reasonable long-term contract and pacing upwards. Plus, substantial cost uncertainty with Laine

If we had 3 Ekblads, sure.
Edit

... and their defense is pretty average, but expensive...

It is expensive, but not decent: our defensive/goaltending numbers were bottom 5 even after bringing in Bobrovsky. This is the mistake that leads to your conclusion.

 

[steveat]

In no world is a #1 Dman traded for a top 3 winger. In most cases a #1 Dman is worth MORE than a 1A Centre

 

[violaswallet]

In no world is a #1 Dman traded for a top 3 winger. In most cases a #1 Dman is worth MORE than a 1A Centre

Eh, in the vacuum (no contract, no team needs), I can see an argument that an elite goal-scorer is worth Ekblad, especially given the Barkov connection. Like Nashville a couple seasons back would do this same trade....

 

[Habs Halifax]

In no world is a #1 Dman traded for a top 3 winger. In most cases a #1 Dman is worth MORE than a 1A Centre

It's deeper than that cause there are different values within each of the 1D, 1C, and top line winger.

Value on this proposal is close but it fits the Jets more than the Panthers. Jets can trade a winger... Panthers can't trade any of their D... especially the best D they got.

 

[jonlin]

I actually like it as a base. I`d ask for a sweetener though if I`m Panthers:

WPG get:

Ekblad



FLA get:

Laine
Niku



Florida would have to pickup atleast 1 UFA defender. Cheap ones. I`d try signing Haula for around 3M and Granlund for 4,5M on 1yr deals. With a Bottom 5 defense, this would help since theese forwards are pretty good 2-way players

Huby-Barkov-Laine
Granlund-Haula-Acciari

Would be a decent Top6

 

[Linds]

It would be possible for Florida to flip Laine, but then it gets complicated trying to speculate

 

[Tripod]

I actually like it as a base. I`d ask for a sweetener though if I`m Panthers:

WPG get:

Ekblad



FLA get:

Laine
Niku



Florida would have to pickup atleast 1 UFA defender. Cheap ones. I`d try signing Haula for around 3M and Granlund for 4,5M on 1yr deals. With a Bottom 5 defense, this would help since theese forwards are pretty good 2-way players

Huby-Barkov-Laine
Granlund-Haula-Acciari

Would be a decent Top6

Now look at the defense....

It makes no sense at all for any team to trade their #1Dman when they have no replacement unless they are rebuilding...in which Laine would not be the target.

 

[violaswallet]

Yeah, I don't think fans think through the other team's position well or the relative rareness of players.

Of our big 3 (Ek, Barky, and Huby), we have no one that can come close to replace the first two. Our high-end prospect depth other than Knight are wingers. If you want to target one of our stars, think through equivalent trades for Huby.

One that I would do if both players are discontent are Huby for Laine, which is lateral for both teams except that I think Huby would flourish in a Canadian market with attention and I think Laine would do well next to Barkov in terms of commitment and mentality. But I don't think this is the right use of resources for Winnipeg given their needs

 

[jonlin]

Now look at the defense....

It makes no sense at all for any team to trade their #1Dman when they have no replacement unless they are rebuilding...in which Laine would not be the target.

Florida should rebuild. They should aim on keeping Barkov and getting Laine would actually help out at that. Barkov is Laines pal and I bet they would be good together. Both are young and good players to build around.
2022 Stralman is out and 2023 Yandle. Florida aint going to compete anytime soon and I`d rather be sure Barkov stays put. Give your prospects playingtime and try fetching cheap D from FA.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Florida should rebuild. They should aim on keeping Barkov and getting Laine would actually help out at that. Barkov is Laines pal and I bet they would be good together. Both are young and good players to build around.
2022 Stralman is out and 2023 Yandle. Florida aint going to compete anytime soon and I`d rather be sure Barkov stays put. Give your prospects playingtime and try fetching cheap D from FA.

Ya a 24yr old #1 D with 5 years left is also a good thing to build around.
There's no justifying moving a #1D for a winger because of the friend aspect.

 

[violaswallet]

Florida should rebuild. They should aim on keeping Barkov and getting Laine would actually help out at that. Barkov is Laines pal and I bet they would be good together. Both are young and good players to build around.
2022 Stralman is out and 2023 Yandle. Florida aint going to compete anytime soon and I`d rather be sure Barkov stays put. Give your prospects playingtime and try fetching cheap D from FA.

Ya a 24yr old #1 D with 5 years left is also a good thing to build around.
There's no justifying moving a #1D for a winger because of the friend aspect.

Yeah, if we rebuild, I think Ekblad is the piece we keep given certainty. Like why not? We can trade him for the same haul in a few years?

 

[larmex99]

Sounds great but from where does the Panthers acquire another Ekblad?

From the same place Jets get another Laine. Nowhere soon....

 

[Howboutthempanthers]

Stop making proposals for Ekblad please.

 

[Cotton]

In no world is a #1 Dman traded for a top 3 winger. In most cases a #1 Dman is worth MORE than a 1A Centre

That never been true. 1C is the hardest thing to find, and you typically need to draft them in the top half of the 1st round.

 

[Jeti]

In no world is a #1 Dman traded for a top 3 winger. In most cases a #1 Dman is worth MORE than a 1A Centre

Laine is younger and more elite for his position than Ekblad is. This proposal already massively discounts Laine because he's a winger.

I get that Florida can't do it because of how bad their defense is but to suggest the value is off is absurd.

 

[Beezeral]

I actually like it as a base. I`d ask for a sweetener though if I`m Panthers:

WPG get:

Ekblad



FLA get:

Laine
Niku



Florida would have to pickup atleast 1 UFA defender. Cheap ones. I`d try signing Haula for around 3M and Granlund for 4,5M on 1yr deals. With a Bottom 5 defense, this would help since theese forwards are pretty good 2-way players

Huby-Barkov-Laine
Granlund-Haula-Acciari

Would be a decent Top6

This isn't a sweetner, it's a throw in to make contracts work.