Player Discussion: Kyle Connor is a machine.

[Sperss1997]

I agree they are both good players with shortcomings.

I think Ehlers is as good offensively IMO. He generates allot of points for the time he is on the ice. Being on the #1 PP unit is going to distort raw production quite a bit. Currently Connor has 56 even strength points and Ehlers has 53 even strength points playing mostly on the 2nd line away from the top scoring centre.

Even strength is also 3v3 and 4v4, where we all know Ehlers doesnt get much icetime.
5v5 Ehlers has 46 points and leads the Jets, KC has 40 points with almost 90 minutes more played, which equals a little more than 6 games played.
PoMo is a moron!

 

[pld459666]

Not every player is going to be an advanced stats darling.

And, if I could have a player that is a bit lacking defensively and doesn't ride his teammates coattails to a 40 goal 80+ point season, I figure out a way to make it work.

That said, the Rangers are interested if you want to trade him to an Eastern Conference team.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Even strength is also 3v3 and 4v4, where we all know Ehlers doesnt get much icetime.
5v5 Ehlers has 46 points and leads the Jets, KC has 40 points with almost 90 minutes more played, which equals a little more than 6 games played.
PoMo is a moron!

I wonder how many of those minutes are because of changing from pk to 5 v 5 and the puck is hemmed in their end or there is an opportunity for an odd man rush whether you’d be happy. If he gives up opportunities in their end and our end like mad but he is always prompt to give Ehlers his playing minutes. Ditto with power play. Also it would be a better comparison with Laine who gets power play minutes and might get hemmed in their end.
Also the last 5 games Connor has been great at break out and entries. And his D has been better.
Not saying Nik doesn’t deserve more minutes.

 

[ps241]

Even strength is also 3v3 and 4v4, where we all know Ehlers doesnt get much icetime.
5v5 Ehlers has 46 points and leads the Jets, KC has 40 points with almost 90 minutes more played, which equals a little more than 6 games played.
PoMo is a moron!

Thank you for that I just deducted the PP points but you actually calculated the 5v5 and points and calculated the minute differential which is pretty large.

I don’t really mind that Nik doesn’t play with Scheif or on that top line. I am fine with spreading out talent and Ehlers driving his own line.

Nik would be a prime weapon at 3 on 3 but he is clearly not Paul’s cup of tea. I am not a Maurice hater (I am Meh on him) and all coaches have limitations. Paul struggles with the way Nik plays hockey even though it’s really effective. That is a significant blind spot he owns.

 

[ps241]

Not every player is going to be an advanced stats darling.

And, if I could have a player that is a bit lacking defensively and doesn't ride his teammates coattails to a 40 goal 80+ point season, I figure out a way to make it work.

That said, the Rangers are interested if you want to trade him to an Eastern Conference team.

We like to nitpick and debate.

I do appreciate the scarcity of a pure finisher like Connor even if I prefer more complete players (advanced stats darlings) like Mark Stone or Panarin. Guys that can finish but they drive their line and the team.

I will joyfully keep our perennial 30 to 40 goal scorer. Kyle is a Low maintenance date on a pretty nice contract too.

 

[Jets 31]

Not every player is going to be an advanced stats darling.

And, if I could have a player that is a bit lacking defensively and doesn't ride his teammates coattails to a 40 goal 80+ point season, I figure out a way to make it work.

That said, the Rangers are interested if you want to trade him to an Eastern Conference team.

Connor isn't going anywhere .

 

[kanadalainen]

Not every player is going to be an advanced stats darling.

And, if I could have a player that is a bit lacking defensively and doesn't ride his teammates coattails to a 40 goal 80+ point season, I figure out a way to make it work.

That said, the Rangers are interested if you want to trade him to an Eastern Conference team.

This is really an extraordinary statement. I'll pipe up on behalf of armchair GMs everywhere. Sure we're interested, this is part of our Master Plan. We'll take Panarin and Kakko, if that's ok with you? And please throw in Trouba after convincing his agent that he really wants to play in somewhere other than where his fiancee is going to medical school, *and* while we're negociating, have the Rangers eat half of Trouba's salary for the duration of that awful contract. That should do it.

 

[Adam da bomb]

This is really an extraordinary statement. I'll pipe up on behalf of armchair GMs everywhere. Sure we're interested, this is part of our Master Plan. We'll take Panarin and Kakko, if that's ok with you? And please throw in Trouba after convincing his agent that he really wants to play in somewhere other than where his fiancee is going to medical school, *and* while we're negociating, have the Rangers eat half of Trouba's salary for the duration of that awful contract. That should do it.

I’ll pass on Trouba and take Fox instead.

 

[kanadalainen]

I’ll pass on Trouba and take Fox instead.

Yes!! Sorry that's what I meant to say. Throw in Fox and we're good!!

Connor to NYR, for Panarin, Kakko and Fox.

 

[Jet]

Not every player is going to be an advanced stats darling.

And, if I could have a player that is a bit lacking defensively and doesn't ride his teammates coattails to a 40 goal 80+ point season, I figure out a way to make it work.

That said, the Rangers are interested if you want to trade him to an Eastern Conference team.

As long as we can get a deal like we got with Trouba lets talk

 

[Jet]

This is really an extraordinary statement. I'll pipe up on behalf of armchair GMs everywhere. Sure we're interested, this is part of our Master Plan. We'll take Panarin and Kakko, if that's ok with you? And please throw in Trouba after convincing his agent that he really wants to play in somewhere other than where his fiancee is going to medical school, *and* while we're negociating, have the Rangers eat half of Trouba's salary for the duration of that awful contract. That should do it.

I'll pass on Trouba - overrated and vastly overpaid.

 

[pld459666]

Connor isn't going anywhere .

Awesome

 

[pld459666]

As long as we can get a deal like we got with Trouba lets talk

ADA and the Canes/Leafs 1st for Connor?

Done

 

[Sperss1997]

Not every player is going to be an advanced stats darling.

And, if I could have a player that is a bit lacking defensively and doesn't ride his teammates coattails to a 40 goal 80+ point season, I figure out a way to make it work.

That said, the Rangers are interested if you want to trade him to an Eastern Conference team.

Please, take Ehlers. Anything to get him away from Pomo.
I like KC too. He is especially very good (deadly) in close to the goalie, but his lack of defense almost evens his offensive output. He should be able to fix that though, but numbers do not suggest that it is something he cares much about. If he loves money more than winning that is the right approach, because GMs still live in the stone age and pay mainly for points - also when it comes to blue liners

 

[Tommigun]

So Connor is still up in the stint where Perreault got injured. Do you guys think he’ll be sent back to the AHL or will he stay up a while longer?

 

[sipowicz]

What’s all this talk about Connor regular season?

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

So Connor is still up in the stint where Perreault got injured. Do you guys think he’ll be sent back to the AHL or will he stay up a while longer?

That is one slow internet connection you got there, dude.

 

[GeorgeJETson]

That is one slow internet connection you got there, dude.

Winnipeg's wifi sucks?

 

[DRW204]

does anyone have a summary on how many goals he's scored with Scheifele vs without at 5v5, and the 5v5 mins? I know it's gonna be stark differences in efficiency, but just wondering how big of a gap

 

[KingBogo]

does anyone have a summary on how many goals he's scored with Scheifele vs without at 5v5, and the 5v5 mins? I know it's gonna be stark differences in efficiency, but just wondering how big of a gap

I've always like this line tool from Naturalstattrick.

Line Stats - Natural Stat Trick

 

[DRW204]

I've always like this line tool from Naturalstattrick.

Line Stats - Natural Stat Trick

that's not individual goals though, that's on-ice GF/GA. looking for his individual goals scored with Scheifele vs w/o

 

[KingBogo]

that's not individual goals though, that's on-ice GF/GA. looking for his individual goals scored with Scheifele vs w/o

That's in there. Look at GF and GA with each other and isolated from each other. If you want to dig deeper you will need to spend the time isolating further.

Edit: you can also dig through the game logs feature if it is something you really want to dig into.

 

[DRW204]

That's in there. Look at GF and GA with each other and isolated from each other. If you want to dig deeper you will need to spend the time isolating further.

Yeah I know you can do that. It will have to be going through game logs and all that.

Was just wondering if someone had a clear concise chart of the stats already

 

[KingBogo]

Yeah I know you can do that. It will have to be going through game logs and all that.

Was just wondering if someone had a clear concise chart of the stats already

Sorry I can't help you with that. Good luck with your search. I'd expect Connor to do better than you expect. IMO he is one of the least appreciated players on the team, which is a damn shame considering how creative he is around the net.

 

[DRW204]

Sorry I can't help you with that. Good luck with your search. I'd expect Connor to do better than you expect. IMO he is one of the least appreciated players on the team, which is a damn shame considering how creative he is around the net.

I don't think he would. But we'll see