Kucherov shoulder to the head hit on Vatanen (upd: no supplementary discipline)

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Can we relax on the overreacting threads on hockey hits? It's getting too much now.

The NHL isn't helping suddenly having hearings for some slightly borderline hits.

 

[J T Money]

No head contact but he clearly has a concussion. Interesting.

Physics.

 

[Paxton Fettel]

Don't judge by the result. The hit is legal. Player is injured, OK, but as a result of a legal hit, so there's nothing to talk about here. Injuries happen every day.

 

[koth]

Looks like a good hit to me. It's a huge hit, but it isn't dirty.

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

Physics.

Suspension or not its very clear the concussion is from Kucherov jumping into the hit. Thats Physics.

Doesnt take a suspension to know the hit was illegal.

 

[DFC]

Suspension or not its very clear the concussion is from Kucherov jumping into the hit. Thats Physics.

Doesnt take a suspension to know the hit was illegal.

Except it wasn't.

 

[tny760]

lesson of the day: skate around with your head down

carrier hunched over is unable to be hit without a suspension, vatanen upright is fair game for guys to launch into him

dops is pathetic

 

[Linda Bacon]

Scott Stevens said the hit was clean so I'll agree with him

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

Except it wasn't.

Lol so Kucherov didnt leave his feet?

I could care less about suspensions but dont just make crap up to pump your tires lol. Everyone has acknowledged he left his feet - go read the rulebook or have your kids learn to play hockey and youll find out leaving your feet for a hit is illegal.

Not all illegal hits are suspended otherwise there wouldnt be any controversy now would there be?

 

[KotBegemot]

Lol so Kucherov didnt leave his feet?

I could care less about suspensions but dont just make crap up to pump your tires lol. Everyone has acknowledged he left his feet - go read the rulebook or have your kids learn to play hockey and youll find out leaving your feet for a hit is illegal.

Not all illegal hits are suspended otherwise there wouldnt be any controversy now would there be?

He left his feet after the contact as a result of it. I'll give you that Kuch had one (right) leg in the air at the moment of contact but not both of them.

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

He left his feet after the contact as a result of it. I'll give you that Kuch had one (right) leg in the air at the moment of contact but not both of them.

Well obviously, this isnt peewees the guy doesnt have to literally jump into his hit.

Feet being lifted by force is fine. That wasnt the case here. But either way we both know he left his feet thus the hit was illegal. Again, doesnt mean its suspension worthy, it just means guys know he jumps into his hits.

I could care less if anything happens to him but players hate that type of stuff because it causes unnecessary strain on the neck and head (when force is pushing upward when it should be lateral)

 

[Canadienna]

I love Kuch and that should be a game. In a perfect world I would give more than that but it wouldn't be fair to comparable hits this postseason.

I think he deserved a game merely for the fact he didn't get a major in game. It is impossible to tell intent but he clearly collided his shoulder with Sami's head, and it resulted in an injury. I want these guys to have long careers more than wanting to see headshots.

Besides, one game won't kill em.

 

[SFKingshomer]

Would be a suspension if it were Doughty or against the NHL Knights. The league is losing it's credibility...

 

[God King Fudge]

Suspension or not its very clear the concussion is from Kucherov jumping into the hit. Thats Physics.

Doesnt take a suspension to know the hit was illegal.

This dude has the hottest takes on this board, hands down.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

Well obviously, this isnt peewees the guy doesnt have to literally jump into his hit.

Feet being lifted by force is fine. That wasnt the case here. But either way we both know he left his feet thus the hit was illegal. Again, doesnt mean its suspension worthy, it just means guys know he jumps into his hits.

I could care less if anything happens to him but players hate that type of stuff because it causes unnecessary strain on the neck and head (when force is pushing upward when it should be lateral)

Have you ever played hockey before? Or are you basing all your incorrect assumptions on what you've played in NHL 18?

He went for a big hit to get the puck carrier off the puck. He achieved that with a clean and legal hit. You have a problem with it, argue that the rule itself is wrong, not that the play is.

 

[God King Fudge]

I love Kuch and that should be a game. In a perfect world I would give more than that but it wouldn't be fair to comparable hits this postseason.

I think he deserved a game merely for the fact he didn't get a major in game. It is impossible to tell intent but he clearly collided his shoulder with Sami's head, and it resulted in an injury. I want these guys to have long careers more than wanting to see headshots.

Besides, one game won't kill em.

Good thing this wasn't a headshot, or a suspension worthy hit.

 

[NjDevsRR]

I can see why no discipline BUT I could see where he could have gotten a game. contact near the head and it was a bit of a charge. Idk, thought it should have been 1. Does not matter, Devils need to win a road game no matter who is in the lineup on both sides. Gut check time.

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

This dude has the hottest takes on this board, hands down.

Saying a player left his skates woahh such a hot take man lol

I better calm it down before i see that thread ban for all the heat im launching

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

Have you ever played hockey before? Or are you basing all your incorrect assumptions on what you've played in NHL 18?

He went for a big hit to get the puck carrier off the puck. He achieved that with a clean and legal hit. You have a problem with it, argue that the rule itself is wrong, not that the play is.

'have you ever played hockey before'

You dont even know me lmfao, dont act like you can tell what people do on the internet. Go ahead and show me some nice still images of Kucherov's feet remaining on the ice before and through the hit - ill wait

 

[VinikToWinIt]

I can see why no discipline BUT I could see where he could have gotten a game. contact near the head and it was a bit of a charge. Idk, thought it should have been 1. Does not matter, Devils need to win a road game no matter who is in the lineup on both sides.

I think if it's ambiguous and it's a player with no dirty history, they typically get the benefit of the doubt. Personally, I see a clean hit with a very unfortunate result.

 

[ThunderAlleyNomad]

Lol so Kucherov didnt leave his feet?

I could care less about suspensions but dont just make crap up to pump your tires lol. Everyone has acknowledged he left his feet - go read the rulebook or have your kids learn to play hockey and youll find out leaving your feet for a hit is illegal.

Not all illegal hits are suspended otherwise there wouldnt be any controversy now would there be?

Plenty of NJ fans agree it wasn't a bad hit. I read it on your board. Go explain to them that they need to get a rulebook.

 

[Neutral Hockey Fan]

I still find it hard to believe that people on here have no idea what causes a concussion.

Everyone here is saying “he has a concussion! That proves it was a head shot! Head contact had to have been made since he has a concussion!!!”

Do you people not realize that more concussions are caused by contact to the chest and stomach area, than contact to the head? Or are you just ignorant of the actual causes of concussions all together?

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

I think if it's ambiguous and it's a player with no dirty history, they typically get the benefit of the doubt. Personally, I see a clean hit with a very unfortunate result.

So you wouldnt have agreed wit a 2 minute charging call?

Charging is the action where a player takes more than two strides or travels an excessive distance to accelerate through a body check for the purpose of punishing the opponent. This includes skating or leaving one's feet (jumping) into the opponent to deliver a check, accelerating through a check for the purpose of punishing the opponent, or skating a great distance for the purpose of delivering a check with excessive force.

 

[Jeti]

He intentionally hit him up high, basically jumped into it and got almost nothing but head... No suspension.

Maybe the Devils coach didn't cry to the media enough.

 

[tny760]

I think if it's ambiguous and it's a player with no dirty history

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