Speculation: Krug leaving Boston?

Fatass

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Krug doesn't want to play in Canada, All Canadian teams were on his no trade list.
I think Krug wants to get paid. He will play where he gets the contract he wants. Don’t see any Canadian teams either having cap room, or desire to sign him though.
 

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Want nothing to do with Krug. His overall offensive(primarily the PP) production will not be nearly as high with Detroit as it was with Boston due to the Wings' lower overall offensive talent so it's not like Krug can take the Wings' PP from 29th. to first. Factor into this the somewhat major detail that he is a huge defensive liability making his overall contribution to the Wings somewhat questionable at best. Showing my age here, but Krug reminds me of John Ogrodnick who played with the Wings in the 80s. In 84/85 he scored 105 pts. and was a mere+1. In 85/86, while scoring 70 pts., Ogrodnick was -30. While we have the cap space to afford Krug-he will NOT make the Wings a better team. Rather go with Cholo and/or McIsaac.
 
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That's super interesting, actually.

I also wonder how bad the PP suffers with McAvoy in. I think he's overrated defensively but underrated offensively.

McAvoy-Hall-Bergeron-Pastrnak-Marchand is gross. All 4 forwards are above average goalscorers.

Cassidy mused about going 5 forwards on the PP of Krug leaves. They already allow the most shorties in the league with Krug, what’s the difference?
 

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Not bullshit, pure fact, like it or not. History is there for those who are interested.

Lmao none of the players picked by the Canadiens with that rule played in the nhl.

You need to do some research on your "fact".

They could only pick players who hadnt signed with another team.
 

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Lmao none of the players picked by the Canadiens with that rule played in the nhl.

You need to do some research on your "fact".

They could only pick players who hadnt signed with another team.
The Habs had the rights to every player from the province of Quebec, every player. The got Bellievau but buying the league he played in and folding it so the only place he had to play was with the Habs. If this is BS name me one player from Quebec who played outside the Habs organization or a player from Quebec that signed with any other team than the habs prior to 1970.
 

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instead you add another giant need to fill by not bringing him back

Boston needs to improve es play and secondary scoring from the forward group.

Signing pp specialist at 1st pair money leaves you with nothing left
 

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The Habs had the rights to every player from the province of Quebec, every player. The got Bellievau but buying the league he played in and folding it so the only place he had to play was with the Habs. If this is BS name me one player from Quebec who played outside the Habs organization or a player from Quebec that signed with any other team than the habs prior to 1970.

Fast forward to today and only 7% (+/-) of the NHL comes from Quebec. Quebec was really due for a talent like Lafreniere. Interesting that is was an advantage back when cause it has not been in the last decade or two... if the Habs had rights over Quebec players today. Even Quebec talent that becomes UFA chooses other teams vs Montreal. Hockey mad market that attacks their own in a blink of an eye. And the fans and media think this is acceptable and then cry when nobody wants to sign. Idiots! And I'm a Habs fan too :laugh:

Krug to me is a very good offensive talent and puck mover but man... 70% of starts in the offensive zone and he still manages to be the worse +/- on the Bruins by far. Wow... talk about one extreme to the other. I don't blame the Bruins for not wanting to pay him the money he will be after. I think he might get a humbling experience in the UFA market with a flat cap growth
 
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Boston needs to improve es play and secondary scoring from the forward group.

Signing pp specialist at 1st pair money leaves you with nothing left

Without Chara and Krug, do you think your team D is the same? From the outside looking in... I have my doubts.

Rolling Chara and Bergeron/Krejci over and over again for many years should not be overlooked.
 

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Without Chara and Krug, do you think your team D is the same? From the outside looking in... I have my doubts.

Rolling Chara and Bergeron/Krejci over and over again for many years should not be overlooked.

Chara is coming back and Chara should be a 3rd pair guy, McAvoy is the guy on defense today, Carlo #2.

This team adds Hall+ some defensive D-man with size and we are looking worlds better than this year.
 

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Chara is coming back and Chara should be a 3rd pair guy, McAvoy is the guy on defense today, Carlo #2.

This team adds Hall+ some defensive D-man with size and we are looking worlds better than this year.

McAvoy or Carlo are not Chara. Great young guys on D but they are not intimidating and hard to play against like Chara is. If Chara is back, your team D should be the same. Without him? We will see in future season. Replacing him won't be easy. He's still playing top 4D minutes and very tough to play against in his own end. He's lost offensive ability but man... Many guys are still scared of him in his own end. Enjoying it while you can!

Can't remember who said it but I think it was Kevin Bieksa... Other guys on the Bruins play bigger cause Chara is on their team. Agree or not but Bieksa knows what he is talking about and I had the same opinion before he said it.

Chris Strewart also said that when Chara comes at you... you plan dead like he is a real bear or you will get ripped apart :laugh:. Funny but very true.
 

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McAvoy or Carlo are not Chara. Great young guys on D but they are not intimidating and hard to play against like Chara is. If Chara is back, your team D should be the same. Without him? We will see in future season. Replacing him won't be easy. He's still playing top 4D minutes and very tough to play against in his own end. He's lost offensive ability but man... Many guys are still scared of him in his own end. Enjoying it while you can!

Can't remember who said it but I think it was Kevin Bieksa... Other guys on the Bruins play bigger cause Chara is on their team. Agree or not but Bieksa knows what he is talking about and I had the same opinion before he said it.

Chris Strewart also said that when Chara comes at you... you plan dead like he is a real bear or you will get ripped apart :laugh:. Funny but very true.

McAvoy is a superior player to the current Chara and they went to finals last year and were the best regular season team this year.
I don't know why you need to keep pushing this garbage idea of mighty 2020 Chara.

Speed/Skill/puck moving >>>>> toughness.
 

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McAvoy is a superior player to the current Chara and they went to finals last year and were the best regular season team this year.
I don't know why you need to keep pushing this garbage idea of mighty 2020 Chara.

Speed/Skill/puck moving >>>>> toughness.

We agree to disagree. I think you will miss Chara way more than you realize or are willing to admit. McAvoy won't look so big whith Chara out of the picture IMO. Your being a bit too sensitive with McAvoy. He's good. But pretending he is a intimating force like Chara is stretching it
 

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We agree to disagree. I think you will miss Chara way more than you realize or are willing to admit.

Prime Chara was great sure, you are just looking at the name on the back too much on 2020 though.

Tampas' speed is a nightmare for Chara.
 

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The Habs had the rights to every player from the province of Quebec, every player. The got Bellievau but buying the league he played in and folding it so the only place he had to play was with the Habs. If this is BS name me one player from Quebec who played outside the Habs organization or a player from Quebec that signed with any other team than the habs prior to 1970.

No it wasn't every player. They had rights to pick 2 players every year who hadn't signed with another team already. Considering players like Bobby Orr were signed by the Bruins @ 13/14 you can imagine how young the players were that teams targeted in and out of Quebec. And again, NONE of the players picked by the Canadiens because of this rule played in the NHL.
 

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The Habs had the rights to every player from the province of Quebec, every player. The got Bellievau but buying the league he played in and folding it so the only place he had to play was with the Habs. If this is BS name me one player from Quebec who played outside the Habs organization or a player from Quebec that signed with any other team than the habs prior to 1970.

Pierre Pilote, Marcel Pronovost, Jean Pronovost, Marcel Bonin, Jean Ratelle, Rod Gilbert, Dave Keon, Pit Martin, Camille Henry, Don Marcotte, Jean-Guy Gendron, Simon Nolet, Gilles Marotte and Leon Rochefort are all players that were signed and developed by teams other than the Habs before 1970, and it's by no means an exhaustive list.

It wasn't exactly a level field, but it's completely untrue to say that they had the rights to every player in Quebec.
 

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McAvoy is a superior player to the current Chara and they went to finals last year and were the best regular season team this year.
I don't know why you need to keep pushing this garbage idea of mighty 2020 Chara.

Speed/Skill/puck moving >>>>> toughness.
Defensively along the walls, net front, and on PK Chara is a more effective player than McAvoy.
 

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Defensively along the walls, net front, and on PK Chara is a more effective player than McAvoy.

McAvoy is a #1D, Chara isn’t even a true top pair guy.

Grelcyk- McAvoy
Ufa add- Carlo
Chara- Lauzon
And Boston’s defense is ready
 

Fatass

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McAvoy is a #1D, Chara isn’t even a true top pair guy.

Grelcyk- McAvoy
Ufa add- Carlo
Chara- Lauzon
And Boston’s defense is ready
Why not just keep Krug, instead of going for a UFA?
Chara on the bottom pair is okay, but he’s still better along the walls and net front and PK than McAvoy. Yes, McAvoy is a top pairing D man, but is Grylcyk?
 

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