people don't realize getting rid of Phil is a win in and of itself. I guarantee we will be a more competitive club next year without Phil around.
#Culturechange.
This was a good trade:
We got a prospect in Kapanen who is now right behind Nylander and Marner.
We got another prospect in Harrington who is your future stay at home top four defenseman.
And we got a 1st round and 3rd round pick for 2016.
Case closed, this is a fine trade.
Because they're not really Leaf fans, they are Kessel fanboys.
Not sure why they're still here and not over at the Penguins board.
The salt in the wound will be if, after this mediocre return for Kessel, we still find Bozak in our lineup, on the first line when the season starts.
You only can 3 of them each year and we're tying one up for 7 years. This year, we have only 1 left (Gunnarsson. Thanks Nonis ) and 2 for another 6 after this year
To say one way or another if the deal is good or bad you have to know what the market for Kessel was
I hate this deal. Not excited about any part of this return. Best I can hope for is the Pens missing the playoffs which is very unlikely.
Exactly! People are talking about the salary retention as if they were holding onto 40%-50% of his contract.
Looking at the 6 years of what we had in Phil Kessel, he didn't fit in our overall plan moving forward.
That's the exact opposite of what the Leafs need.
There's two sides to the trade, right? We got a good return. We gave up a great player, AND a 2nd AND retained salary.
Yep. Was delightful to watch him streak down the wing and snipe mid stride. He'll suddenly be considered elite again once he's out of Toronto and has a competent 1C alongside him. Don't want him to win a Cup this year though, given the pick!
Lots of people are happy with the return. Count me as one of them.
I respect that you feel differently.
hope you guys are happy with the return, I'm f***** not. I woke up knowing that i would be disapointed with the return and big surprise, i am.
people don't realize getting rid of Phil is a win in and of itself. I guarantee we will be a more competitive club next year without Phil around.
#Culturechange.
Yeah the 2nd and the 1.2 mill ruined it for me, otherwise it would have been an acceptable trade. Not good but not bad either. If Pens miss the playoffs however we'll have two Top 15 picks next year which certainly isn't a bad thing.
hope you guys are happy with the return, I'm f***** not. I woke up knowing that i would be disapointed with the return and big surprise, i am.
We should not have retained salary and gave up a 2nd
I see, we would be better off banking those retention options. I got it now. No use using them ever, they are gold if NEVER used.
I always felt the Rick Nash trade was the comparable, and this wasn't too far off in the end.
Pittsburgh got the best player in the deal, which stands to reason. He's going to be dynamite playing with Crosby or Malkin. Amazing player who management failed to provide the correct pieces to allow him to excel. You're not playing Phil Kessel for stellar defensive play, you're paying him to score, and that's what he does very well. Getting a bit of salary retained is good as well.
Biggs is a total bust. Erixon is depth. Pitt get their 2nd back. This stuff is a bit of a wash to be honest.
The Leafs get back a package of pieces to fuel the rebuild. A first in 2016, and a 3rd adds more picks for Hunter to use. There's a remote chance that the 1st is a lottery pick, but I wouldn't bank on it. At the end of the day anyone with sense knew it would be the typical star player trade in the modern era: a package of decent pieces. Kapanen intrigues me, but I don't know enough to really comment.
I'm satisfied. Not overjoyed, but satisfied. Good luck to Phil in Pittsburgh. He was thrown under the bus in Toronto far too often. People will eat their words next season.