Kessel closing gap on Crosby?

[Crosbyfan]

You're a Crosby homer... yes Richards was 17 when he had the 115.

Age is nothing but a number my friend (see Patrice Bergeron and many more) and if Crosby is the next great one, we can compare him to older players, etc., etc.

I know age is nothing but a number... biology is not science, voodoo dolls and astrology are the way to go, Crosby has proved nothing until he skates on NHL ice, and you're some kind of hockey genius.

 

[Tb0ne]

I havn't seen either play to make a judgement and really don't know enough about hockey either (still a new fan).

From what I do know though, I get a feeling both will be atleast stars and as a Canadian, I'm hoping Crosby ends up being much more than that.

But how great it would be for Hockey in the US if Kessel ends up being the in the #5 scorers in the league and makes some mediocre US team, into a contender.

 

[Attica]

I'll wait to see Kessel in a league of some significance, not the US development team.

 

[Attica]

No offense but Daigle WAS hyped as the next Gretzky, I don't believe Vinny was though.

Otherwise, everything you said was pretty dead on (except stats are important, but they aren't the whole story which you answered below).

Daigle was hyped as the next Gretzky by people who didn't know their arse from a hole in the ground. Crosby was hyped to be the next Gretzky by, uhhh, the last Gretzky.

 

[Attica]

Kessel doesn't have anywhere near the overall game Crosby has, and Crosby is still the more gifted offensive player. Kessel will be a great prospect, and no doubt have a great career, but Crosby WILL be the better NHLer. I see Kessel as a 30 goal a year Kovalchuk clone, Crosby is the kind of special player that will lead a team to a cup in the future. I've had the opportunity to see Kessel play a bit, and he is the real thing, but from what I've seen of both, Crosby is leaps and bounds ahead in skill, ability and development.

As of today, we should even be comparing these 2, Crosby is in a different class.

American fans, be proud of your young talent, you've got a great crop, but it takes more than a couple good performances in international comps to reach where Crosby is right now.

 

[Schlep Rock]

Daigle was hyped as the next Gretzky by people who didn't know their arse from a hole in the ground. Crosby was hyped to be the next Gretzky by, uhhh, the last Gretzky.

Hmm... I guess NHL scouts and CSB, etc. don't know their arse from a hole then.

Daigle was hyped by everybody to be the next Gretzky. He had nowhere NEAR the talent Crosby does but was just pointing out he was VERY hyped.

 

[markov`]

Hmm... I guess NHL scouts and CSB, etc. don't know their arse from a hole then.

Daigle was hyped by everybody to be the next Gretzky. He had nowhere NEAR the talent Crosby does but was just pointing out he was VERY hyped.

I guess you don't remember correctly the Alex Daigle hype.

His numbers were nowhere near the greatest in juniors, even if the league was very offensive. Daigle was seen as a great 1st overall pick, a potential franchise player, but there is no NHL Scouts, or the Central Scouting Bureau that had the guts to compare him to Gretzky, or even Lemieux. Daigle was hyped like Phil Kessel is, not like Crosby.

Not only his numbers aren't close to Crosby and he was not nowhere near the player Sidney Crosby is today.

I really think Crosby could get only 100 points and be #1 overall pick anyway. He has the best package I've ever seen.

I just can't believe how people underate this kid. Un-frickin-believable.

 

[markov`]

Daigle was hyped as the next Gretzky by people who didn't know their arse from a hole in the ground. Crosby was hyped to be the next Gretzky by, uhhh, the last Gretzky.

right on

 

[Schlep Rock]

I just can't believe how people underate this kid. Un-frickin-believable.

You people on this message board need to learn to read and understand. It's really getting annoying that people can't understand what one is saying.

At NO point, anywhere have I underrated or underestimated this kid. Kid is a stud, plain and simple. Please understand that for the love of god.

 

[espo*]

I had NO idea that to see Sidney Crosby live as an American I *had* to live in Maine and go to a Lewiston game.

Thanks for the info!

There was no need for that comment,i was only interested in finding out where you had seen him play as i think you very fortunate to be able to do that.Just because you are having a running argument that has got out of hand with other people on this board is no reason to get nasty when someone innocently wants to know where you saw the kid play. I hope you just misinterpreted the meaning behind my message though i must say i can't understand how you did.

 

[Schlep Rock]

There was no need for that comment,i was only interested in finding out where you had seen him play as i think you very fortunate to be able to do that.Just because you are having a running argument that has got out of hand with other people on this board is no reason to get nasty when someone innocently wants to know where you saw the kid play. I hope you just misinterpreted the meaning behind my message though i must say i can't understand how you did.

Sorry I misunderstood your post. Since I'm so used to be attacked here, figured it was just another attack.

 

[espo*]

Sorry I misunderstood your post. Since I'm so used to be attacked here, figured it was just another attack.

I figured that's what is probably was,no problem man.

 

[GKJ]

I don't think any American would say Kessel is better right now.

I know I don't

 

[roast]

Kessel is a fantastic player, but Crosby is still far above and beyond where Kessel is.

 

[417]

I won't say who I think is better, no one can make that distinction right now without it being guess work...

What I will say though is I really like Kessel, he's so explosive and I like his quick strike ability, don't know if he'll be better than Crosby though....

 

[policegopher]

Since I have only seen Crosby once, I cannot make a fair assesment. The one thing I know is that these two guys, along with Ovechkin, are the future big names of the NHL.

I would really like to see Kessel and Crosby get drafted by a team in a big media market. I think these two guys are what the NHL needs to revitalize the game in the States (it kills me that Poker gets higher ratings than Hockey ). IMO the game is in serious jeapordy on the Pro level and these future stars are going to have to bring it back from the brink of non-existence.

 

[MN_Gopher]

Kessel will be on one of the top two lines next year. No doubt about that. He is already a bigger offensive threat than anybody on the current Gopher team and that is saying something when you have a couple of guys like Irmen and Potulny. They didn't recruit him as hard as they did so he could play on a 3rd or 4th line. I don't care how much Lucia rolls lines, Kessel will see more ice time than just about anybody on that team next year and he will be playing on a top line.

Do u remember seeing Thomas Vanek playing with Smaagard and Fleming at all. That was our 4th line. Lucia will roll lines till he finds a line that clicks well.

 

[Sticky*]

Kessel will probally turn out to be a bigger Paul Kariya. Fast with a great shot that can score from far away and has all the shots. Now there are people better than Kariya but how many are way better? Kessel should should fill out to be about 6 feet 190. Thats about Marian Gaboriks size. For the last 2 years the u18 team has benn playing colleges so when Kessel was 16-17-18 he could have been playing against guys as old as 25 years old. With one sole purpose to take out that hot shot kid. I have yet to see him get cleanly hit in the open ice.
Mueller may have the better pro style game. But i do not see him going number one over Kessel. Kessel offensive up side out ways most any other prospect out there.

Gophers next year.
Potulny-Irmen-Howe
Guyer-Chucko-Wheeler
Kessel-Stoa-Hirsch
Kaufman-Sertich-Bostrom
Harrington-Goligoski
Anderson-Hagemo
Vanneli-Peltier

Year after that add in Okoposo, Carmen, and E.Johnson.

Yah, and dont forget their top recruit Peter Mueller.

 

[Habitantpeasoup]

this was the gap before the under 18's
crosby.......................................................................kessell

& after
crosby.....................................................................kessell

 

[bleedgreen]

the gophers are going to be fun to watch next year. are the schedules for next season done? probably not - i hope minny comes to denver next year.

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

this was the gap before the under 18's
crosby.......................................................................kessell

& after
crosby.....................................................................kessell

They said the same about Daigle and Kariya in 1993.

 

[firstroundbust]

the gophers are going to be fun to watch next year. are the schedules for next season done? probably not - i hope minny comes to denver next year.

I believe they do a series at each place...

 

[Habitantpeasoup]

They said the same about Daigle and Kariya in 1993.

Kessel=Daigle same type of player exactly, purely one dimensional.

 

[VOB]

Kessel=Daigle same type of player exactly, purely one dimensional.

Kessel is a far far cry from Daigle. For one, he has what Daigle never had and that is a love for the game. He has far better stick skills and Daigle could only dream of having the shot that Kessel has.

As to the comparison between Crosby and Kessel, as one poster already said, its comparing apples to oranges.


Crosby is not Lemieux or Gretzky. He will not dominate the game as those did.

Crosby will be a higher end Peter Forsberg. A player that will have the capability to control both ends of the ice, coupled with elite playmaking abilities as well as the skills to score goals in bunches. He will be considered the best player in the NHL for a long time to come.

Kessel will be an awesome synthesis of a Patt Lafontaine and Brett Hull. He will be deadly on the power play and a game breaker. He will be considered the best pure offensive player in the NHL for a long time to come.

In short, both will be franchise players and super stars.

 

[Habitantpeasoup]

He will be considered the best pure offensive player in the NHL for a long time to come.

Says Who? You! & everyones talking Crosby's overhyped!!