Seravalli: Kane's camp steadfast in belief a 40-50 M contract available in UFA - allowed to speak with teams

[ManofSteel55]

This has the Flyers written all over it

Not when they're prepping to send Gaudreau 10M.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Not when they're prepping to send Gaudreau 10M.

If they miss out I'd think Flyers and Fletcher are a match made in heaven for a bad contract. Likely Kane's best chance at the highest cap longest contract.

 

[ManofSteel55]

I'm about the furthest thing from an Evander Kane fan but 4 years 4.5per is a borderline insulting offer for a player of his caliber.

The talking to other teams thing could be a ploy. Could be Edmonton playing hardball and thinking that nobody else will offer much so they are lowballing. I wouldn't be shocked if it was a ploy to see if any teams are interested or not.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

The talking to other teams thing could be a ploy. Could be Edmonton playing hardball and thinking that nobody else will offer much so they are lowballing. I wouldn't be shocked if it was a ploy to see if any teams are interested or not.

I hope Holland offers a fair 3 year contract with the option to neg to 4 years. Outside that, he can go

 

[Nasti]

As a Kings fan, I hope the Oilers give him what he wants

 

[Unspecified]

E. Kane to Seattle would be interesting. Doesn't Seattle have a ton of cap space?

 

[Double Dion]

I think most organizations won't sign him. I doubt he gets anywhere close to the number speculated here. Should drive the price down. I'm shocked honestly there wasn't more blow back in Edmonton from the deal they did with him. Hard to say you care about what kind of people you have in your organization when you bring him in.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Yet they couldn’t find a single arbitrator to see an open and close case until after free agency begins?!?

This is a bunch of bullshit.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I'd be very surprised if he got such a deal with all of the off ice stuff that has transpired over the years. I could see a $30 million deal ie. $6 million x 5 years, beyond that? Very risky if things go sideways.

 

[MessierII]

I feel like it’s bad timing on a couple fronts for him. His arbitration case is a mess and might not be resolved. To make matters worse the forward free agent class is absolutely bonkers this year so no ones going to wait around for him. Still hoping they can find a way to keep him in Edmonton. There’s no better fit on our wing.

 

[Gregsky99]

If he didn't have the hearing about the San Jose contract, then maybe this is easily doable.. but I think alot of teams are leery about the way that battle will go. If he wins does the new team have to pay more? Less? Nothing? Etc. We're in uncharted waters here

 

[Altimus]

Dude just wants to pay his creditors, not play meaningful hockey.

 

[PostBradMalone]

I’m shocked honestly there wasn't more blow back in Edmonton from the deal they did with him. Hard to say you care about what kind of people you have in your organization when you bring him in.

Kinda like when the Flames hired Bill Peters?

 

[Double Dion]

Kinda like when the Flames hired Bill Peters?

The Flames immediately fired Bill Peters when his conduct came to light. It's not remotely the same as signing a player with multiple civil payouts for sexual assault and a laundry list of other items.

 

[PostBradMalone]

The Flames immediately fired Bill Peters when his conduct came to light.

Key words here. Seems they only cared about employing a racist when it became public knowledge, but otherwise let years worth of negative conduct in private slide.

It's not remotely the same as signing a player with multiple civil payouts for sexual assault and a laundry list of other items.

Gambling debt > racist bullying. Interesting set of standards you have.

 

[5 Minute Major]

I wouldn’t give Kane 40 to 50 million over 6 years even if there wasn’t a salary cap.

 

[Oddbob]

I wouldn't want him, but if I did, he would not get more than 2 or 3 years as he is a massive flight risk to do something stupid.

 

[TheNumber4]

Dude just wants to pay his creditors, not play meaningful hockey.

Lol trust me. He doesn’t care about his creditors that much, that’s why their his creditors.

 

[Mattb124]

I think most organizations won't sign him. I doubt he gets anywhere close to the number speculated here. Should drive the price down. I'm shocked honestly there wasn't more blow back in Edmonton from the deal they did with him. Hard to say you care about what kind of people you have in your organization when you bring him in.

Yes, there is what his production on paper should garner but the entire league knows his history as a total ****bag. IMO he will get a 2-3 year contract at a higher AAV, but will not get term.

 

[Double Dion]

Key words here. Seems they only cared about employing a racist when it became public knowledge, but otherwise let years worth of negative conduct in private slide.



Gambling debt > racist bullying. Interesting set of standards you have.

Sexual assault = gambling debt?

It's interesting that you appear to minimize his behavior. Says how important you think character is. Peters is rightly out of the league and was fired immediately when the news came to light. It's one thing to hire someone not knowing something. It's another when you know and show by your actions you don't care.

Yes, there is what his production on paper should garner but the entire league knows his history as a total ****bag. IMO he will get a 2-3 year contract at a higher AAV, but will not get term.

It's kind of revelatory the way some Oiler fans try to pretend it's only gambling debt. Not the classier ones, but there's a big portion of their fanbase that flat out doesn't care about his history. He should be out of the league like Voynov. Even more so as Voynov was only one incident. Kane is multiple.

 

[PostBradMalone]

Sexual assault = gambling debt?

Show me where he was found criminally responsible for sexual assault.

It's interesting that you appear to minimize his behavior. Says how important you think character is. Peters is rightly out of the league and was fired immediately when the news came to light. It's one thing to hire someone not knowing something. It's another when you know and show by your actions you don't care.

"When you know" eh?

 

[Mattb124]

Sexual assault = gambling debt?

It's interesting that you appear to minimize his behavior. Says how important you think character is. Peters is rightly out of the league and was fired immediately when the news came to light. It's one thing to hire someone not knowing something. It's another when you know and show by your actions you don't care.


It's kind of revelatory the way some Oiler fans try to pretend it's only gambling debt. Not the classier ones, but there's a big portion of their fanbase that flat out doesn't care about his history. He should be out of the league like Voynov. Even more so as Voynov was only one incident. Kane is multiple.

Yeah, I am a SJS fan and Kane was our best player 2 seasons ago. And I think he is a total ****bag. Getting the boot from 3 NHL teams, the COVID protocol violations, abortions for pay (not to mention the one he allegedly said he would pay for but didn't once it was done), and the loans he took out when he apparently knew he was going to be filing BK and hence would never have to repay them. Absolute garbage.

 

[Double Dion]

Show me where he was found criminally responsible for sexual assault.



"When you know" eh?

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Ah, you're one of those. So he was successfully sued for 3 Million but its didnt happen eh? I'm not big on automatically pronouncing guilt without due process, but a payout for the assault is certainly an admission of guilt. He was found criminally responsible for physically assaulting 3 different women and was given a stay. I suppose that didn't happen too right? Then I suppose his wife Anna lied about him attacking her too right? I suppose the guy in Vancouver too? I suppose the girl who said he threatened, bribed and tried to intimidate her into having an abortion lied too right?.

I can't believe people still try to defend this guy. I mean if you want to say I don't care as long as he plays well then fair enough. But to try to say none of it happened is ridiculous.

 

[PostBradMalone]

Ah, you're one of those. So he was successfully sued for 3 Million but its didnt happen eh? I'm not big on automatically pronouncing guilt without due process, but a payout for the assault is certainly an admission of guilt.

That's explicitly what it isn't. Look up what a finding of fact is if you're confused on the matter.

He was found criminally responsible for physically assaulting 3 different women and was given a stay. I suppose that didn't happen too right? Then I suppose his wife Anna lied about him attacking her too right? I suppose the guy in Vancouver too? I suppose the girl who said he threatened, bribed and tried to intimidate her into having an abortion lied too right?.

I can't believe people still try to defend this guy. I mean if you want to say I don't care as long as he plays well then fair enough. But to try to say none of it happened is ridiculous.

So based on your non-answer about Peters, you don't actually care what Kane did or didn't do, you just care he did it while playing for a team that wasn't Calgary. Got it.

 

[Double Dion]

That's explicitly what it isn't. Look up what a finding of fact is if you're confused on the matter.



So based on your non-answer about Peters, you don't actually care what Kane did or didn't do, you just care he did it while playing for a team that wasn't Calgary. Got it.

You might want to read the post again. The Flames didn't know he did those things and immediately fired him when they did. That's the proper course of action.

I don't think you understand civil law. This wasn't a settlement. This was a judgment against Kane civilly. There was no admission of guilt, there was an acknowledgement of damages. There are no damages with no actions.

How about the 3 assaults on women he was found criminally responsible for and allegations of a 4th? That ok by you too?