Is this thread really neccessary? Don't mean jack shit if he has the worst +/- of the rookies, because he's been playing great the last couple games.
Kakko has worst +/- of all NHL rookies
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AIexisLafreniereNYR
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Thanks for the concern. Much appreciated! Anyways, our concern as Ranger fans was he wasn’t NHL ready. Well the last 3-4 games he’s looked great so I’m not quite sure exactly what you’re going on about. Thanks for the advice though what the Rangers should do with their team!
Oh please you guys have used +/- when it is convinient to shit on Ovechkin. When it's not convinient like when Mario Lemieux gets the exact same bad +/- you say it's meaningless.
Using +/- as a judgemental factor on a EU rookie adjusting to the league is kinda ridicilous and low, yes. You should know the last 4-5 games his defensive play has improved ALOT, his offence is picking up nicely too.
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Did you watch the game? Clearly not. What the frick is your point with this comment? I love how so many here love giving him shit for his struggles in the beginning but those same posters don't mention jack shit on what he has done good. He's been great the last 4 games. Give it a rest already lol.
I mean I wanted Kakko to get 100 points this season. So he is disappointing me so far.
Lmfao ok i guess i can understand but you can't be dissapointed on him only on yourself for having such a ridicilous expectation.
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It’s a perfectly fine stat when used properly. It’s meaningless as a raw number and has to be looked at in appropriate context.
The OP is not using it correctly btw.
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3 of the 5 goals the Rangers scored were Special Teams...
Kakko's deployment has been pretty unfavorable: 33% ZSR, nobody from his draft class is below 50%. That definitely plays into it...that and he was flat out abused by the Bergeron line a couple of weeks ago.
+/- is stupid anyway
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I’ve done a superficial look & he is struggling to be fair.
The Rangers goal diff is -1, they a 10gf/10ga on the pp and have 3 SHGF, 1 SHGA. He’s -11 and next two players are -6 and -4. I’ve not bothered finding out who he normally plays with but there’s going to be a significant differential either way. Strome seems involved on most of his points and he’s +5. Even without looking at zone starts (I see someone has) the +/- is starting to tell us something more meaningful.
However, he’s a rookie and only a short way into his career. He will figure it out. I’m not on the kid, it more about how to use +/- properly.
The Rangers goal diff is -1, they a 10gf/10ga on the pp and have 3 SHGF, 1 SHGA. He’s -11 and next two players are -6 and -4. I’ve not bothered finding out who he normally plays with but there’s going to be a significant differential either way. Strome seems involved on most of his points and he’s +5. Even without looking at zone starts (I see someone has) the +/- is starting to tell us something more meaningful.
However, he’s a rookie and only a short way into his career. He will figure it out. I’m not on the kid, it more about how to use +/- properly.
Yes Kakko isnt fastest skater, he needs to improve that but his strenght on puck replaces it quite well. He has made amazing offensive zone entries this season and its because his honestly already one of the NHL best players staying on the puck and protecting it. Sometimes maybe too much.
Kakko has never been good shooter, pretty average. Maybe your exceptations about him was little bit too high?
Everybody has their weaknesses except JaCk HugHes.
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The kid will be fine.
We really have to learn not to judge young players. Especially kids still under the drinking age.
We really have to learn not to judge young players. Especially kids still under the drinking age.
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"you guys" is a really broad brush to use for all 116,605 other HFBoards users.
Well 2 of the ranger goals were on the power play and one of them was a shorthanded goal (and Kakko obviously wasn't a part of). The last goal was an empty netter so I am not really sure what point you are trying to make here...
If you can show me proof about how my choice of words don't fit the demographic, I will gladly change it but as far as I know this site has 97-98% men on it.
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