Player Discussion: Kadri for Trouba

[Mortimer Snerd]

Easy poll, would you be happy with Trouba traded straight up for Kadri in a 1 for 1 trade?

No plus, no add on.........just straight up one for one.

Good grief, not even an add? That's awful

 

[Hunter368]

Good grief, not even an add? That's awful

Yes.....yes it is.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I voted Yes. I think fans are expecting to much in a return. Kadri fills our #2 center on a good contract. What’s not to like? People are fine with Nolan Patrick but not Kadri?

Patrick is developing. Kadri has passed his peak. Forget that he is a DB. He is not much upgrade on Little, if any.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I voted yes
He’s not a bad player on a fair contract.
Some of y’all wanted to keep that knuckle dragger Lemieux who is nowhere near Kadri’s level
Mind you Cheveldayoff needs to start paying attention to our D corps

Nobody voted to keep Lemieux over Trouba.

Kadri does nothing positive for the Jets. He is not the 2C we need.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

My personal thoughts are this

1. I don't think its Kadri > Little or Little > Kadri. I think its about having depth at center and depth that can score.
2. I think its about the things Kadri can do that Little cannot and vice versa
3. Kadri is cost controlled for 3 seasons which is vital going forward
4. It puts us still in a win now mode
5. I would like an add from Toronto to even things out

Little is cost controlled for 5 more seasons. Or is it 6? I don't see it solving any problems.

 

[Jeffrey Pedler]

Another so thought is that Kadri's production has declined each of the past two seasons. He also turns 29 at the beginning of this upcoming season. If Chevy does bring back Myers do we really want to have a significant amount of the cap allocated to plateauing/declining players that are approaching or over the age of 30?

Brian Little started regressing fairly hard at about the same age Kadri will be next season. Not saying Kadri will but even in his prime he only was putting up low 60's in point totals and that was only for a few years. Other than that he's essentially been a 45 ish point player.

My fear is that at his age he likely only gives us what Little is currently giving us and imo that isn't good enough to win a cup.

His production only declined because he was pushed to the third line, when Tavares was signed. Before this season he had two thirty goal seasons in a row. He is a good second line centre, signed to a great contract and hockey fans underrated him.

 

[Hunter368]

88% have said no to a straight up trade....kinda of what I thought would be the result.

 

[Neuf]

88% have said no to a straight up trade....kinda of what I thought would be the result.

Yeah Kadri is just lesser at his position than Trouba at his. Also he's a wiener.

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

Sounds like Winnipeg is on Kadri's no trade list anyway, so our concerns have been allayed.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Sounds like Winnipeg is on Kadri's no trade list anyway, so our concerns have been allayed.

No Trade Clause can be waived. My closet pessimist is beginning to expect Kadri for Trouba. Lots of arguments against it but my spidey senses are tingling. I just hope there is a decent add.

 

[StumpyTown]

Sounds like Winnipeg is on Kadri's no trade list anyway, so our concerns have been allayed.

We can only hope that this is the case. I would have a hard time cheering for this guy even if he's wearing Jet's colors.

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

No Trade Clause can be waived. My closet pessimist is beginning to expect Kadri for Trouba. Lots of arguments against it but my spidey senses are tingling. I just hope there is a decent add.

Stop de-allaying my fears.

Can't see why he would. Stastny doing it for a playoff run with a team that held much promise is one thing. Waiving it to join a team that I'm sure every player in the league is aware has turned into a gong show, just don't see it.

 

[tntkid]

If Trouba goes anywhere it will be Philly, Buffalo or possibly Florida.

He wants out of Canada.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Stop de-allaying my fears.

Can't see why he would. Stastny doing it for a playoff run with a team that held much promise is one thing. Waiving it to join a team that I'm sure every player in the league is aware has turned into a gong show, just don't see it.

It looks like he is the odd man out in TO. He has to go somewhere. In spite of the gong show Wpg would mean he still gets to play for a strong team and he gets to be 2C again instead of 3C. And maybe he's just crazy.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

If Trouba goes anywhere it will be Philly, Buffalo or possibly Florida.

He wants out of Canada.

I really don't believe it ever had anything to do with the line on the map. I think Buffalo is a lot less likely than Toronto. Not that TO is a high probability, but Buffalo doesn't strike me as the kind of place he is looking for. Philly and NY are my top 2 guesses.

 

[tntkid]

I really don't believe it ever had anything to do with the line on the map. I think Buffalo is a lot less likely than Toronto. Not that TO is a high probability, but Buffalo doesn't strike me as the kind of place he is looking for. Philly and NY are my top 2 guesses.

I have a feeling Trouba goes to Philly where we will get a return of Nolan Patrick and some draft picks.

 

[Howard Chuck]

I have a feeling Trouba goes to Philly where we will get a return of Nolan Patrick and some draft picks.

Man I hope so. Then I have to hope that NP fits well here. He's still developing according to most.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I have a feeling Trouba goes to Philly where we will get a return of Nolan Patrick and some draft picks.

That one has a certain ring of truth to it. I would much prefer that to Kadri.

 

[Board Bard]

I have a feeling Trouba goes to Philly where we will get a return of Nolan Patrick and some draft picks.

You think Patrick is going to be mad or glad if he has to come back to Winnipeg for the next five years? Just curious.

 

[LowLefty]

That one has a certain ring of truth to it. I would much prefer that to Kadri.

It's interesting (if true) that Philly is giving up on their young center already

 

[Board Bard]

It's interesting (if true) that Philly is giving up on their young center already

They might not be giving up on him. The plus from Trouba is considerably larger than the minus from losing Patrick. They're be doing some rebalancing that they think will benefit the team overall, and not by just a little I would think.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

It's interesting (if true) that Philly is giving up on their young center already

I don't see it as giving up on him. They fired their GM - who appeared to me to be doing a good job of building up the system - because they wanted to get back to winning now. Right now. Patrick hasn't broken out yet and they aren't prepared to wait, even though this could be his breakout year.

If they can sign Hayes, freeing up Patrick to use to get a big upgrade to their D, they have progressed a long way toward winning now. If they can get decent goaltending they could be there this year.

 

[LowLefty]

I don't see it as giving up on him. They fired their GM - who appeared to me to be doing a good job of building up the system - because they wanted to get back to winning now. Right now. Patrick hasn't broken out yet and they aren't prepared to wait, even though this could be his breakout year.

If they can sign Hayes, freeing up Patrick to use to get a big upgrade to their D, they have progressed a long way toward winning now. If they can get decent goaltending they could be there this year.

I hear you -
But it goes against all that I know and have seen in this game - you don't give up on high profile / drafted Centers this early unless there's something wrong.
Just my take and it's all a rumor - who knows

 

[tntkid]

You think Patrick is going to be mad or glad if he has to come back to Winnipeg for the next five years? Just curious.

Probably a lot happier than Trouba would be if he was re-signed by the Jets.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I hear you -
But it goes against all that I know and have seen in this game - you don't give up on high profile / drafted Centers this early unless there's something wrong.
Just my take and it's all a rumor - who knows

There you go calling it giving up on him again. They are trading him for a 1RHD after making certain that his roster spot is filled. That is not giving up on a player. It is roster adjusting. That is exactly what you commit to doing if you draft BPA instead of by need. You have to give to get.

Everything coming out of Philly since before they fired Hextall has said that they want to move young assets and prospects for players who are at their peaks. I'm not saying it is or isn't smart, but that is what they say they are going to do.