Player Discussion: Kadri for Trouba
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Aggie204
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No, Kadri with an add definitely. Plus he screwed the Leafs in back to back playoffs. Kadri with this teams issues in the penalty box would be horrendous.
Would be terrible for the Jets, shouldn’t even be a question, really.
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This could rival my poll on whether the Jets should have signed Shane Doan to play one last season as a Jet. 
No interest in a Kadri/Trouba trade. Even as a pure rental Trouba would return more than a regressing 3C. I'd rather just keep Trouba as an own rental if this is the best we could do.
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I voted Yes. I think fans are expecting to much in a return. Kadri fills our #2 center on a good contract. What’s not to like? People are fine with Nolan Patrick but not Kadri?
Jetfaninflorida
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No, but Chevy is in a week negotiating position. We won't get back what Trouba is worth, whether it is Kadri or someone else. Maybe Chevy can get free soda for the locker room for a year and 10000 pucks thrown into the deal to close the gap a bit.
Patrick is young with upside and doesn't have much of an issue staying out of the penalty box.
The last thing we need on this team is another penalty machine.
i am assuming this is Trouba as a rental? If so yes. my hesitation is similar to everyone's - his PO reputation/behavior.
When he was in a top 6 role from 16-'18 his primary 5v5 teammates in terms of TOI at forward were Marleau and Komarov and then Brown and Marner . he'd get an upgrade with a combination of Ehlers and Laine. he is also ranked 20th in the NHL over the last two years in Penalties Drawn with 56 and has taken 30 minors so he does draw quite a bit of penalties compared to the minors he takes
When he was in a top 6 role from 16-'18 his primary 5v5 teammates in terms of TOI at forward were Marleau and Komarov and then Brown and Marner . he'd get an upgrade with a combination of Ehlers and Laine. he is also ranked 20th in the NHL over the last two years in Penalties Drawn with 56 and has taken 30 minors so he does draw quite a bit of penalties compared to the minors he takes
Kadri takes fewer penalties per 60 than Wheeler or Byfuglien.
Chevy's bargaining position is based on how many teams are competing for Trouba. If there are two or more teams that value Trouba highly, then the return will be good.
Patrick has upside. Kadri is what he is and that's pretty mediocre.
Kadri's 5v5 penalty differential by season (+ is good):
+5
+8
-8
+19
+22
+15
+23
So, he took more penalties than he drew in only one season (2016/17), and generally draws more penalties than he takes.
Another so thought is that Kadri's production has declined each of the past two seasons. He also turns 29 at the beginning of this upcoming season. If Chevy does bring back Myers do we really want to have a significant amount of the cap allocated to plateauing/declining players that are approaching or over the age of 30?
Brian Little started regressing fairly hard at about the same age Kadri will be next season. Not saying Kadri will but even in his prime he only was putting up low 60's in point totals and that was only for a few years. Other than that he's essentially been a 45 ish point player.
My fear is that at his age he likely only gives us what Little is currently giving us and imo that isn't good enough to win a cup.
Brian Little started regressing fairly hard at about the same age Kadri will be next season. Not saying Kadri will but even in his prime he only was putting up low 60's in point totals and that was only for a few years. Other than that he's essentially been a 45 ish point player.
My fear is that at his age he likely only gives us what Little is currently giving us and imo that isn't good enough to win a cup.
Well you haven't been hear to see me rant about how undisciplined both are lol. We don't need more of it, especially with Maurice who is incapable of holding his vets accountable.
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He’s got balls and really he got f*****d on the knee on knee non call if you ask me
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Penalty diff seems a strange one to filter to 5v5. What if a player has a penchant for killing powerplays by being an idiot? Or defends a 6 on 5 last minute of play by headshotting someone? Some penalties are circumstantial and some are emotional - emotions run thinner when it isn't 5v5.
That said, I'm impressed that he was +23. I'd hate to see some of the Jets differentials.
agreed, i thought it was a bit odd to filter on just 5v5. i looked at all strengths and he's +26 in drawn vs minors the past 2 seasons. he's drawn 56 penalties (19th in the league through this time) and is on par with Ehlers on a per game basis
cbcwpg
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During the regular season his PIM isn't outlandish ( last 2 seasons he had 42PIM in 80GP and 43PIM in 73 GP )... compare that to Wheeler with 60PIM and even Laine with 42 PIM last season.
The problem is once the playoffs start he becomes a psycho. 19PIM in 2 GP last season and 19PIM in 4GP previous....plus associated suspensions
Regular season PIM/GP : 0.689
Playoff season PIM/GP: 2.947
The problem is once the playoffs start he becomes a psycho. 19PIM in 2 GP last season and 19PIM in 4GP previous....plus associated suspensions
Regular season PIM/GP : 0.689
Playoff season PIM/GP: 2.947
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I like 'em -
He's skilled offensively and he has a nasty streak that doesn't bother me one bit - I like agitators - especially one's that can score.
He plays hard and can be the type of guy that will stir things up - and sometimes you need a guy like that (Buff's similar when he wants to be).
I also hear that he does as he's told and can play a number of roles.
He'd be a better fit that Little on #2 and I'd love to see him playing with top shelf wingers - could be just the thing to re-energize this guy.
But it all depends on what the offers for Trouba look like - at the end, this might be our best chance at a well rounded #2 center.
I'd rather dwell on the above than focus on how he can be overly aggressive at times - more good than bad IMO
He's skilled offensively and he has a nasty streak that doesn't bother me one bit - I like agitators - especially one's that can score.
He plays hard and can be the type of guy that will stir things up - and sometimes you need a guy like that (Buff's similar when he wants to be).
I also hear that he does as he's told and can play a number of roles.
He'd be a better fit that Little on #2 and I'd love to see him playing with top shelf wingers - could be just the thing to re-energize this guy.
But it all depends on what the offers for Trouba look like - at the end, this might be our best chance at a well rounded #2 center.
I'd rather dwell on the above than focus on how he can be overly aggressive at times - more good than bad IMO
raideralex99
Whiteout Is Coming.
Put Wheeler and Laine on the Blues and they would have ZERO penalties.
Seriously the crap that the Blues are getting away with in the playoffs is a joke!
