Confirmed with Link: Jordan Subban traded for Nic Dowd

[Hansen]

Didn't deserve one.

yeah f***ing right scoring goals in the preseason and didnt get a chance on the powerplay even in pre-season games that meant anything

He was the top player for Utica last season, wasnt even given a thought.

 

[orcatown]

Thought in the last while Subban was looking better. Was really skating well and this might have been why LA was willing to take a flyer on him.

Dowd is a fairly good AHL type. Looked solid on very good Manchester team. However has done nothing at the NHL level. More or less a warm body who reminds me of a more in your face Megna.

Canucks got nothing IMO and gave away some potential in Subban.

 

[PG Canuck]

Both players will be nothing in a few years so I don’t really care. Subban was never going to make it here and I have my doubts he will make it anywhere.

 

[PredsForPresidents]

Not into it. This is like the anti-Pouliot move.

 

[ATypicalCanadian]

They're trying to get Benning on the radio post trade. I'll post anything he says assuming it's anything interesting.

 

[Jack Burton]

Don't mind this trade one bit...Welcome to the club Dowd.
This kid can make plays but I just don't think it will be with a NHL team.

Nothing for nothing trade IMHO

 

[MS]

Honest Subban assessment?

He has a lot of talent but IMO is playing the wrong position. Simply is not big enough or good enough defensively to play that position in the NHL.

His skating ability and shot are NHL-calibre and he plays like a rover and scores goals like a winger. Has some jam and can play with swagger and confidence.

He should have been converted to wing ages ago to see how his skill level played there. The talent and upside are definitely there.

 

[Royal Canuck]

Man.

Knew it was coming eventually, too bad management didn't see more in Subban long term.

Thought with guys like Hutton, Stecher and Pouliot in the system, they'd see the potential in a guy like Subban. Still had a long ways to go before being an NHLer, but the potential is there.

Guess this is to help fill down the middle in the bottom 6 while Horvat/Sutter are still gone.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Trades made out of necessity because of injury don't usually make me happy. Dowd is competent on faceoff duty, that's about the extent of my knowledge of him. Given our two best faceoff men/defensive centers are gone, maybe he is going to be asked to fill that role as a stop gap.

Hopefully this means Chaput goes back to Utica to boost their forward group. Wonder what it means for Burmistrov, though.

Best of luck to Subban in California. I agree he is likely not an NHL player, but there were times - especially in the last two seasons - where I really wish we would have given him a look.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Subban was never going to get a chance here sadly. All the best of luck to him and I hope he makes the NHL to prove Benning wrong.

Prove Benning wrong how?...The final call on who makes the cut at training camp is up to the coaching staff, and at the end of the day,he was never good enough.....Green saw the same flaws in Subbans game that all the other Canuck coaches did.....Best of luck to Jordan in LA.

 

[Canucks LB]

At first i thought subban would make it to the show, this year he took a big step backwards imo

 

[ATypicalCanadian]

Prove Benning wrong how?...The final call on who makes the cut at training camp is up to the coaching staff, and at the end of the day,he was never good enough.....Green saw the same flaws in Subbans game that all the other Canuck coaches did.....Best of luck to Jordan in LA.

I'm talking purely off him making the NHL. He never got a chance here even when we needed injury fill ins.

If he doesn't make it then so be it.

 

[biturbo19]

A bit disappointing they couldn't parlay Jordan Subban into something a bit more exciting back when he was rolling offensively at least. He was always going to be on the outs with his lack of reach and stature and suspect approach to defensive hockey. Hard to say his value would've been particularly high at that point either though, as a diminutive offensive Defenceman with serious defensive shortcomings putting up points in the AHL doesn't exactly move the needle as an NHL acquisition until the guy actually proves he can hack it at that level. And he probably never will be able to prove he can hack it at that NHL level as a Defenceman.

 

[canwincup]

At least Benning didn't throw in a pick, I refreshed the page three times to make sure.

 

[y2kcanucks]

Good move for Subban's career.

Another knee-jerk move for Benning. Giving away potential for trash, though Subban was never going to be given a fair shake here. I hope he makes it in LA.

 

[Red]

This is a nothing move and yet people get pissed.

Subban is not a good player. He clearly struggles even at the AHL level.

Saying Subban has potential at this point is pretty laughable.

 

[GarryValkyrie]

couldn't even get a draft pick back. lame

 

[biturbo19]

This is a nothing move and yet people get pissed.

Subban is not a good player. He clearly struggles even at the AHL level.

Saying Subban has potential at this point is pretty laughable.

I think for some, there's a disconnect between the idea of "talent" and "NHL potential" in this case. Jordan Subban obviously has plenty of talent, but at this point...the likelihood of him blossoming into an NHL calibre defenceman in his complete game is beyond slim.

 

[canwincup]

This is a nothing move and yet people get pissed.

Subban is not a good player. He clearly struggles even at the AHL level.

Saying Subban has potential at this point is pretty laughable.

They could have tried him out as a winger, he has speed and skill along with good offensive instincts. There really would've been no harm in trying

 

[SgtToody]

Wonder how this trade's going over back home in Dowd's Alabama... Can't wait to hear Paterson ask him - is he a Jones or Moore guy?

 

[Red]

They could have tried him out as a winger, he has speed and skill along with good offensive instincts. There really would've been no harm in trying

Sure I can agree with that. They should have tried in his 2nd year. But not many players are converted in the first place, and less so successfully.

For a purely "offensive defenseman", he didn't even manage to put up all that many points. I think his skill set, such as it is, is vastly overrated and I am extremely skeptical he would have been a successful winger at all.

Mind you, I think Dowd sucks, but this is a pure nothing for nothing trade.

 

[Johnny Canucker]

I don’t know if we are allowed to post things here that can be considered heresy so I won’t say anything , but dig further deep in to this. You may find something....

Maybe Subban asked for a change of scenery (trade). Wish he got at least a game but he just doesn't have the defensive game

 

[F A N]

I don't like this trade, but I don't necessarily dislike it. Don't really know much about Dowd but my first thought is that I think Subban has more value on the farm than Dowd who is a pending UFA? We could have kept Subban and see if he takes the (unlikely) next step next summer before he hits waivers. Ah well...

Honest Subban assessment?

Never got a chance with the Canucks but he is coming off a poor camp where he was terrible defensively. Honest opinion is that he has not shown the ability to defend at the NHL level even to an adequate extent. The way he showed at camp/pre-season, it doesn't look like his offensive game can compensate at the NHL level.

 

[Johnny Canucker]

If I see the word “potential” linked to Subban one more time in this thread.....

If this turns out to be the Forsling for peanuts part 2, then we can start the fire ....

 

[hellstick]

I wasn't a Subban fan, so good riddance to bad rubbish. He was never going to be an NHL defenseman anyway.

Welcome to the team, Dowd. We traded an AHL player for a depth NHL player. I don't mind it. I guess he's sent packing as soon as we ice a healthy lineup.