Player Discussion Jonathan Drouin - Part 4

[Spring in Fialta]

Can you honestly say that DD deserved to play with our best winger the last few seasons he was on the team? Can you honestly say that Drouin deserves PP time and top 6 minutes when he just isn't productive on the PP and his compete level is lacking? OC was right on the money with his posts. It was you who decided to play the language card in a very nasty way.

I think Desharnais was a fit to try and maximize the lineup and they played him with a winger with whom he did have chesmistry and who requested to play with him.

As for Drouin, it's the same as always. The team sucks and with his skillset, there's no other place to play him.

 

[BLONG7]

Drouin does create chances. He is very capable playmaker.

putting all the eggs in one basket with Pleks on the 1st would have been a bad idea because DD would not drive play by himself and Pleks could. But DD could play with Max, so that creates two lines. It isn’t that complicated, really. Has nothing to do with language but it seems that you are trying to turn it into a language thing.

Drouin is only capable, when he has time and space, and yet even on the PP he is not a very good player these days...
As for the language issue with DD, the posters did not turn it into that, the putz MT did.

 

[OldCraig71]

Drouin is only capable, when he has time and space, and yet even on the PP he is not a very good player these days...
As for the language issue with DD, the posters did not turn it into that, the putz MT did.

No Bill, it was just me.

 

[Censored Toad]

Jd sucks . He’s awful and enough evidence in his play has occurred for me to form that opinion . Guy is poo poo bad , he was sold as the next guy lafleur” and Marc bought the shiny bait as Steve Y laughed to a cup . Jd would be on 3rd line or 4th on most teams , he’s coddled by the habs organization.
Boo!

 

[Doc McKenna]

Jd sucks . He’s awful and enough evidence in his play has occurred for me to form that opinion . Guy is poo poo bad , he was sold as the next guy lafleur” and Marc bought the shiny bait as Steve Y laughed to a cup . Jd would be on 3rd line or 4th on most teams , he’s coddled by the habs organization.
Boo!

I think he has some skill, but his willingness to do any hard work is the biggest issue.

 

[sampollock]

was is he out again???

 

[jaffy27]

I think he has some skill, but his willingness to do any hard work is the biggest issue.

I’m with you, kid has skill, I’d say tons of it, but what he lacks in my opinion is the IQ and the willingness to go above and beyond.

It’s as though he has an internal eject switch where if it becomes too difficult he bugs off and as he attacks he has one plan in mind as this is all he can retain and if that plan fails, like what he had planned out to do doesn’t materialize, then the play dies as he cannot improvise and find new seams.

This player along with Lefebvre are Bergy’s biggest failures.

 

[sandviper]

I think he has some skill, but his willingness to do any hard work is the biggest issue.

There definitely a consistency issue which is mostly mental. I’ve coached some really good kids but some of them mail it in sometimes. I’d tell them to do x, y, s and they do for a stretch, but then fall back to lackadaisical play or poor decision making.

 

[dcyhabs]

Drouin is only capable, when he has time and space, and yet even on the PP he is not a very good player these days...
As for the language issue with DD, the posters did not turn it into that, the putz MT did.

That's exactly the problem. The habs have a lot of players that can take advantage if someone opens space for them and fail totally if no one does. The habs really needed Kotkaniemi in a way the 'Canes just don't, at least unless he develops a lot. Carolina doesn't need a player to open space, they have lots of guys who can do that, while the habs really, really need someone who can do that and it isn't Dvorak, yet another player who could look good if someone else were driving play for him.

The habs really need to deal two of Drouin/Caufield/Hoffman/Toffoli, not because they are bad but because they need the same minutes, and draft guys who drive the play. Getting play drivers is hard, both because the habs can't seem to identify them and because teams that can tend to consider them core players and keep them around.

The Canadiens could probably shoot themselves in the foot long term by identifying and obtaining undervalued play drivers who don't necessarily put up big stats. It's unlikely that they could become competitive without a top center and top D, but they could probably get to the point of scraping for the playoffs just by going from a totally unbalanced team that was put together randomly by an arrogant amateur to a planned, balanced team lacking high end talent.

 

[sampollock]

JD is a bust plain and simple
I bet when TB was asked by MB to make the deal, they were shocked and excited at the same time
MB got screwed

 

[Habricot]

He is not reprensenting the culture i would want for that team. He lacks engagement and competitiveness. Its unfortunate, his toolbox is quite full.

 

[Habs4Life]

perfect example of how not to be an NHL player. If it wasn't for his skill he would not be in the NHL

 

[sampollock]

this guys is not a 30 goal scorer, yet they are paying him for OFFENCE
so were is it? he sucks lazy and pretty boy but he speaks French, so pay him lot's (no disrespect)

 

[OldCraig71]

If not for Bergevin, JD wouldn't be in the NHL now, he has 74 goals in 7.5 seasons in the league all of which being used in a top 6 role with oodles of pp time. He's simply not that good and how Bergevin believed that he was worth 33 million dollars says a lot about his ability as a GM, he saw the same thing in Gallagher, another anchor of a contract.

 

[BLONG7]

If not for Bergevin, JD wouldn't be in the NHL now, he has 74 goals in 7.5 seasons in the league all of which being used in a top 6 role with oodles of pp time. He's simply not that good and how Bergevin believed that he was worth 33 million dollars says a lot about his ability as a GM, he saw the same thing in Gallagher, another anchor of a contract.

There is a huge blinding effect sometimes, when it comes to the handling of francophone players by the organization, and when people point it out, we are labelled haters.
Bizzarre at best by those who judge in such a way...I will never understand...
Most fans could care less where a player is from....most.
The defence of such a terrible player, just because he is from his home town makes no sense, unless his play can back it up................for JD, not even close.

 

[dcyhabs]

Drouin has really good hands, but then so did Tatar and he got benched and dumped. He could be really good on a team that is very physical and lacking in skilled players. For Montreal he is redundant and clear proof of Bergevin's lack of vision, trading a player he needed for a player he did not need.

 

[BLONG7]

Non Covid related illness last night............gets taken out of the warmup....
Any more comments from the team? Twitter twits, like Renaud Lavoie?

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Tatar is better , this guy sucks been saying it for years dudes a loser good riddance hope he never wears the jersey again. Y est tellement nul et lache c'est pas possible

 

[sampollock]

many say Gally is a anchor , and that is true

but JD is double that, he is a useless player.. MB brought him in to make the fans happy and you know what that is

 

[expy]

Overrated.
Always has been.
Has a shitty attitude as well per people I know that have played with him before.

 

[tazsub3]

Overrated.
Always has been.
Has a shitty attitude as well per people I know that have played with him before.

the day drouin is gone, is the day the old loser culture of MB and team will start to fade on this team.
For the time being, it is rightfully being used as a tank machine

 

[Per Sjoblom]

If you would put Gallagher's work ethic and will to win into JD, he would be a very good player.

 

[digmor crusher]

Poor Johnny Droon didn't feel good, can we dump this guy already?

 

[Belial]

Drouin will be good on a team where he's just a complementary player.

He's clearly not a guy that can lead or be the main producer on a team.

The extremely high expectations when he got traded here basically set him for failure.

 

[expy]

Drouin will be good on a team where he's just a complementary player.

He's clearly not a guy that can lead or be the main producer on a team.

The extremely high expectations when he got traded here basically set him for failure.

Only blind people had high expectations of him, everyone pretty much knew we lost that trade.