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JFC, I honestly forgot how the majority of jets fans were so annoying and confrontational over anything and everything, I feel like such a dickhole now for rooting for them this year.
Lol it wasn’t a misuse of a phrase I All I was saying is that Buffalo needs a turn around, having 2 “Elite” Centers should make any team a playoff team but they’re the farthest from it. Picking apart a phrase doesn’t make me any less correct, it just means your reaching for the least relevant part of the argument it would be like me saying that reading an unexplained book wouldn’t necessarily make me better at math. All in all Buffalo is the worst team in the league and that’s not gonna change by doing the same thing every season(nothing), they need a turnaround.
A turn around is a 180. And picking apart a phrase does exactly that, make it less correct. What you typed is the opposite of what I assume you intended. Use your brain a bit and think.
Id do Little plus Perreault (Cap reasons) for ROR.
Buffalo wouldn't.
I like ROR but his 7.5 cap hit would be impossible .
Why would Wpg move ELC contracts totally like 2.5 3 million for a guy making 7.5
Love ROR but Little for sure needs to be moving out then in that deal.
Can't have scheif at 6.25 ish.. Ror at 7.5 and Little at 5.5 ish as your top 3 centers.
You want a 22 year old guy that has a 6 year contract that just scored 29 goals and you are wondering who adds?I wonder how both fan bases would feel about Little and Ehlers for ROR and Reinhart. Who adds?
I wonder how both fan bases would feel about Little and Ehlers for ROR and Reinhart. Who adds?
JFC, I honestly forgot how the majority of jets fans were so annoying and confrontational over anything and everything, I feel like such a dickhole now for rooting for them this year.
You want a 22 year old guy that has a 6 year contract that just scored 29 goals and you are wondering who adds?
JFC, I honestly forgot how the majority of jets fans were so annoying and confrontational over anything and everything, I feel like such a dickhole now for rooting for them this year.
5 or 6 posters, "the majority of Jets fans". Maybe you just need have thicker skin if these tame responses bother you.
1. We can't fit ROR with our cap situation, it would gut our team.
2. Trading 3 of our top 5 prospects for him and then having to gut our roster is even worse.
3. No one thinks he's a bad player, and we'd a love for him to magically be on our team, but he's not and the trade doesn't fit.
The package is closer then you think imo
I think the value is right on. But I don't see why Winnipeg or Buffalo does it. More so Winnipeg
I agree vesalainen will probably be a very good player, and roslovic is promising, but the jets are entering a cup window and right now ROR helps them a hell of a lot more than either of them
Both sides say no.
And understandably so.
JFC, I honestly didn't know a person can get this but-hurt from a few fans on a message board to the point where they question real life decisions. Majority of Jets fans have given legitimate reasons why we can't take on ROR, even though he is an excellent player.JFC, I honestly forgot how the majority of jets fans were so annoying and confrontational over anything and everything, I feel like such a dickhole now for rooting for them this year.
how is this bad for the jets? they give up a few good prospects but they don't lose anyone playing for them and gain a 60 point centre in the process
I am honestly baffled by Jets fans reactions to this. A top shutdown C who can net 60 points, and a C prospect, for a decent young player, a B prospects and a D prospect.
I am honestly baffled by Jets fans reactions to this. A top shutdown C who can net 60 points, and a C prospect, for a decent young player, a B prospects and a D prospect.
In a trade i think ROR could net that sort of package, probably a bit less. However, the Jets simply cannot do it b/c they will need the ELCs with Laine/Connor/Helle/Trouba/Morrissey ELCs expiring, and an impending raise with Wheeler. Obviously this means we cannot take on 7.5M in salary as well. If Little wasn't signed long term at 5.3M then there's more of a discussion.
The Jets prospect pool is also getting a bit thin on depth with players graduating the past couple seasons so depleting it on one player who plays a position of not a huge need is not a smart choice. Samberg is the Jets 2nd best D prospect, Vesalainen imo is higher than a B prospect and could be in the NHL very soon, and Roslovic has potential to be a C which would raise his team value.
Wasn't sure how you defined prospects. Vesalainen looks really promising, but he could tap out at Joel Armia or be a 30-30 guy, he has overplayed his draft position though imo. No one is undervaluing ROR at least I am not. I have said he would probably return a similar package, I think a piece less and is paid pretty fairly considering he is in his prime years and his deal ends in his 32 YO year (so a year or 2 in his decline). Seems like a lot of Jets fans have mentioned he's a great player as well.Salary concerns I agree with. The undervaluing of ROR or overvaluing of Jets prospects, I don't agree.
A B prospect is anyone below blue chip. I wouldn't say Vasalainen is a blue chip guy.
Hope you remember this thread when you realize the first few years doesn't define a career especially when Nylander was hurt to start and it lingered on but ok. I forget every prospect is the same and will turn out exactly how they played when they were 18-20. I would take Nylander over Roslovic easy.A struggling prospect is worth more than thriving prospects because draft position. Good luck with that kind of logic. Nylander is not even a good player on his AHL team.
I mean Reinhart is 22 and just scored 25 goals despite being stuck on an abyss known as the Sabres 3rd line for a portion of the season where Kane couldn't get anything done either despite playing much better for the Sharks and was pretty much PPG when he was with Eichel. Don't pretend that the Sabres aren't trading anything valuable here.You want a 22 year old guy that has a 6 year contract that just scored 29 goals and you are wondering who adds?