Prospect Info: Jets prospects at the 2023 World Junior Championship

[None]

What number is Wagner.

#10

just reading some commentary of fin vs swiss

seems like that game against finland was a bit of a coming out party for lian bischel? lots of praise for his game.

Played every other shift it felt like. Skates well for how big he is and hits everything he can. A blend of late career Antropov with the physicality and early career Antropov with his hands. While being a defenseman, of course

Edit: Tried thinking about a defenseman comparable and thought of Parayko.

 

[gojetsgo]

lambert should

I was wrong

 

[None]

@None could you edit your op to include what number each of our prospects is?

Added below the names at the top

 

[None]

I was wrong

New coach, same mindset as the old coach I guess.

To me it was less an issue of individual players and moreso that the team wasn't prepared to play a team like Switzerland who aren't going to get drawn into playing outside of their team's defensive structure. Finland's loss was on their coaches to me

 

[Finnflash]

He's who I wanted at 14. Hope McGroarty ends up being the correct pick.

I honestly was leaning that way as well at the time

 

[None]

Well Wagner got a primary assist on Sweden's 6th goal.

 

[gojetsgo]

wagner with a secondary assist on the 8th goal

 

[Adam da bomb]

I honestly was leaning that way as well at the time

Interesting. I don’t know any of these kids and have to defer to authority and hope Chevy was right. Luckily, he does have a pretty good record minus a few blunders.

 

[Atoyot]

Wagner scores, 1G2A early in the 3rd with 0 powerplay time.

 

[DannyGallivan]

Like most people I was always heavily invested in Team Canada at the WJHC.
The one downside of the Jets coming back to Winnipeg/the NHL is that I have significantly lost interest in Team Canada. With the exception of the years where we had Jets on Canada (which isn't that often).
I still want Canada to win but I just don't care as much.
Similar to the abysmal World Cup concept that included Team North America.
With Scheifele, Helle and Trouba on the younger team I found myself cheering for them over Canada.

Go Canada Go (with less enthusiasm)

Too bad the Jets scouts gave forgotten that the tiny little country of Canada still produces some pretty good players. I hope Team Canada crushes all opposition, Jets prospects included.

 

[None]

The US team is doing a better job generating chances through Latvia's tight checking than Finland did against Switzerland. Much better job of actually following the puck carrier through the neutral zone to provide outlets when Latvia steps up at the line.

With that said Team USA's defense might be a little over aggressive. There's been a couple odd man rushes against now that the US will get burned on against better teams.

 

[Finnflash]

Interesting. I don’t know any of these kids and have to defer to authority and hope Chevy was right. Luckily, he does have a pretty good record minus a few blunders.

Chevy should always consult me before my record is 100% lol

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Wagner scores, 1G2A early in the 3rd with 0 powerplay time.

That was a pretty lopsided game, but still nice to see.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Too bad the Jets scouts gave forgotten that the tiny little country of Canada still produces some pretty good players. I hope Team Canada crushes all opposition, Jets prospects included.

It shouldn't be about nationality, but Jets do seem to be ignoring the largest and best pool of prospects.
They didn't draft a Canadian this year until the 7th rd. They didn't draft any last year. They did take Perfetti 1st the year before. 1 Canadian the year before that .... in the 5th rd. The year before that, they drafted 2 Canadians in the 5th rd and 1 in the 7th. That is 5 drafts with just 1 Canadian in the first 4 rds.

It remains to be seen how successfully they have drafted in those 5 years.

 

[Jets 31]

I really hope Lucius and McGoalarty play well , i want those names on the the Jets.

 

[gojetsgo]

It shouldn't be about nationality, but Jets do seem to be ignoring the largest and best pool of prospects.
They didn't draft a Canadian this year until the 7th rd. They didn't draft any last year. They did take Perfetti 1st the year before. 1 Canadian the year before that .... in the 5th rd. The year before that, they drafted 2 Canadians in the 5th rd and 1 in the 7th. That is 5 drafts with just 1 Canadian in the first 4 rds.

It remains to be seen how successfully they have drafted in those 5 years.

we drafted zhilkin in the 3rd round last year, wasn't born here but came over at 11 and reps canada

 

[KingBogo]

It shouldn't be about nationality, but Jets do seem to be ignoring the largest and best pool of prospects.
They didn't draft a Canadian this year until the 7th rd. They didn't draft any last year. They did take Perfetti 1st the year before. 1 Canadian the year before that .... in the 5th rd. The year before that, they drafted 2 Canadians in the 5th rd and 1 in the 7th. That is 5 drafts with just 1 Canadian in the first 4 rds.

It remains to be seen how successfully they have drafted in those 5 years.

I don’t think the Jets care one way or another where the player is from they draft who they believe is the best player available. If a team starts prioritizing nationality over other variables they have stopped even trying.

 

[gojetsgo]

I don’t think the Jets care one way or another where the player is from they draft who they believe is the best player available. If a team starts prioritizing nationality over other variables they have stopped even trying.

yup, to add to that we've had the fewest picks of any nhl from 19-21 so if we only drafted from 1 area we would limit our chances of finding nhl players

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

we drafted zhilkin in the 3rd round last year, wasn't born here but came over at 11 and reps canada

OK, add 1 3rd rounder. Still not much representation.
In 12 dafts, our 1st pick has been Canadian 3 times, Scheifele, Morrissey and Perfetti.

 

[DannyGallivan]

I don’t think the Jets care one way or another where the player is from they draft who they believe is the best player available. If a team starts prioritizing nationality over other variables they have stopped even trying.

It’s a matter of where you put your scouting resources, and if you’re ignoring the top hockey power in the world you are doomed to mediocrity.

Meanwhile, nice goal by Latvia!

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I don’t think the Jets care one way or another where the player is from they draft who they believe is the best player available. If a team starts prioritizing nationality over other variables they have stopped even trying.

I agree - but somehow Canada is being consistently underrepresented. Some unintended bias? Scouting failure? Pure coincidence of how the prospects fall? How long does it take before it becomes statistically significant?

 

[GaryPoppins]

Aaaah, some viable hockey to watch now. Let's see if we can get through this year without a gang rape.

Wtf, think before you post

 

[SM]

It’s a matter of where you put your scouting resources, and if you’re ignoring the top hockey power in the world you are doomed to mediocrity.

Meanwhile, nice goal by Latvia!

Alright, I’ll bite.

Go look at every non-Canadian 1st pick we’ve made and then the next Canadian picked.

2012: Trouba, Koekkoek
2014: Ehlers, N. Ritchie
2015: Connor, Chabot
2016: Laine, PLD
2017: Vesalainen, Frost
2019: Heinola, Poulin
2021: Lucius, Bourgault
2022: McGroarty, Pickering

I think the scouts were better off not drafting the next ranked Canadian in almost every scenario, except Vesalainen, albeit Frost hasn’t turned into anything exceptional. The past two years likely too early to tell, but neither look outrageous.

 

[KingBogo]

I agree - but somehow Canada is being consistently underrepresented. Some unintended bias? Scouting failure? Pure coincidence of how the prospects fall? How long does it take before it becomes statistically significant?

One thing is that IMO the US does a better job at early development compared to Canada. The USA Development Program and USHL does a better job working with the 16 and 17 y/o group to maximize development over the CHL. Less games and more focus on skill development. While I believe Canada has more high end talent, the guys that are drafted in the top 10, the US does a better job of preparing the next tier of players that go in the mid and late 1st round. So far the Jets have been very successful in drafting these players. Connor being the best example.

 

[KingBogo]

It’s a matter of where you put your scouting resources, and if you’re ignoring the top hockey power in the world you are doomed to mediocrity.

Meanwhile, nice goal by Latvia!

I don't think the Jets ignore anywhere. They have all their scouting reports from all countries and select who they believe is the BPA. The only nation I believe that they would look at under a different lens would be Russia, since there is growing uncertainty if those players will become available to you.