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Jets need more from Pavelec — much more

Romang67

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Yep, we do.

IMO, show Noel the door, start looking for another starter while giving Montoya more starts. Pavelec isn't getting it done right now, and he needs to be accountable for his play.
 
blues10

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After the TO I was calling for a change. I am sorry Pavs is not getting it done. We are 3 years in and there is no improvement.

With that contract he has no trade value only a buyout would be possible. Bring in Bryz!
 
EpicGingy

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blues10 said:
After the TO I was calling for a change. I am sorry Pavs is not getting it done. We are 3 years in and there is no improvement.

With that contract he has no trade value only a buyout would be possible. Bring in Bryz!
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Something Bryzgalov said a few years ago makes me think he's not going to sign here.

But we do need somebody to make Pavelec expendable.
 
Mathmew Purrrr Oh

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Wonder if MacT could be convinced that all Pavelec needs is a change of scenery and we swap him for Dubnyk straight up :)
 
Johnny HFBOARDS

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Well that fixes nothing, I just want to see him take a slap shot and not drop to his knees and give up the top corner, just once! (in game)
 
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maximus tacitus said:
Wonder if MacT could be convinced that all Pavelec needs is a change of scenery and we swap him for Dubnyk straight up :)
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That puts us right back where we started. Dubnyk is not great either, he's been benched in Edmonton.

We're stuck with Pavelec for awhile. That contract is unmovable, and the team would be silly to pay a high end goalie and keep Pavelec on the books as well. The best thing this team can do is develop a younger guy to take over.
 
blues10

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Montoya is 28 and has only started 66 NHL games. Lets give him a shot to compete for the #1 spot. At this point the Jets really have nothing to lose. Pavs is having a rough time. Rarely a big save and his rebound control is atrocious at times.

Make Pavs compete for the #1 job.
 
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i dont understand how collectively we are so terrible season after season. Perhaps we are untalented. Add an AHL coach, and losing mentality to it and you have this.
 
Mathmew Purrrr Oh

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tbcwpg said:
That puts us right back where we started. Dubnyk is not great either, he's been benched in Edmonton.

We're stuck with Pavelec for awhile. That contract is unmovable, and the team would be silly to pay a high end goalie and keep Pavelec on the books as well. The best thing this team can do is develop a younger guy to take over.
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your second point contradicts your first

even though Dubnyk has historically been better than Pavs on a worse defensive team, the main reason I would like this to happen is that he's a UFA

sign a UFA starter to a short term deal in the offseason to bridge the gap - hell sign 2 backups with upside (Khudobin, Greisse, Scrivens)

sadly MacT isn't dumb enough to take on "the contract" so it's a pipedream on my part
 
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blues10 said:
Montoya is 28 and has only started 66 NHL games. Lets give him a shot to compete for the #1 spot. At this point the Jets really have nothing to lose. Pavs is having a rough time. Rarely a big save and his rebound control is atrocious at times.

Make Pavs compete for the #1 job.
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That is the very simple solution right in front of our face.

IMHO at the very worst Montoya gives us the same level goaltending that Pavelec is. What could it hurt? It costs the team nothing and we aren't winning anyways. Let him play, he's at least earned that.
 
Jet

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maximus tacitus said:
your second point contradicts your first

even though Dubnyk has historically been better than Pavs on a worse defensive team, the main reason I would like this to happen is that he's a UFA

sign a UFA starter to a short term deal in the offseason to bridge the gap - hell sign 2 backups with upside (Khudobin, Greisse, Scrivens)

sadly MacT isn't dumb enough to take on "the contract" so it's a pipedream on my part
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Yep I agree here. Duby btw has had a league average sv% on a worse team in his career, minus this years struggle. I think he might have just grown tired of the Edmonton circus.

If we could swap Pav and Duby I'd do it in a second. At the very least he continues to suck and we cut him free at the end of the year, and can go get a legit starter.
 
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garret9 said:
No one is taking the bait on asking why is Lawless interested in scoring chances and who he is working with to get this info? :P
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Well, I feel like you've mentioned that you've been talking to/working with Lawless before, no? Either way, it's definitely nice to see him writing with the stats to back up his arguments, and not just because he's finally agreeing with me :laugh:
 
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allan5oh said:
I was wondering why you posted that article.
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This is one of the more higher-profile "calling out"s of Pavelec since the Jets arrived, isn't it?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I've always had the impression that aside from stats guys, everyone in the mainstream thought Pavelec was a great goalie and the skaters were the problem.
 
allan5oh

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Rook37 said:
This is one of the more higher-profile "calling out"s of Pavelec since the Jets arrived, isn't it?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I've always had the impression that aside from stats guys, everyone in the mainstream thought Pavelec was a great goalie and the skaters were the problem.
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A few posters on here have been getting pretty aggressive with the local media lately on the usual fluff stuff. It's interesting watching things on twitter sometimes. Have we changed their opinion? I have no idea. Better late than never.
 
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allan5oh said:
A few posters on here have been getting pretty aggressive with the local media lately on the usual fluff stuff. It's interesting watching things on twitter sometimes. Have we changed their opinion? I have no idea. Better late than never.
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I know of 3 media members that have straight up told me their views on Pavelec changed because of that huge summer article I wrote.
 
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blues10 said:
Montoya is 28 and has only started 66 NHL games. Lets give him a shot to compete for the #1 spot. At this point the Jets really have nothing to lose. Pavs is having a rough time. Rarely a big save and his rebound control is atrocious at times.

Make Pavs compete for the #1 job.
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100% agree my friend. What's the worst that can happen? I would rather it be someone else but these are the guys we have for now so I would run them both as 1b v 1b and you eat what you kill....always split B2B's but after that you go with the hot hand.
 
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