GDT: Jets @ Leafs • Tue, Feb 21 • 630PM CT • TSN3

[Yukon Joe]

So Laine is either incredibly lucky, or incredibly talented?

Damn - I think I could have told you that without a lot of fancy stats.

 

[Hank Chinaski]

i'm a winnipegger who lives in toronto (for 17 years. but still a winnipegger).
Toronto media is ridiculous. and when i say "toronto", i also mean "sportsnet, TSN, the Score".
Matthews gets way more hype than Laine.

let's be honest here: off the top of your head, any idea what kind of season Scheifele's having? where he is in NHL scoring?
how about Bryan Little's PPG average?

if a Leaf was doing this, the media would be hospitalized from trying to **** their own ***** and breaking a rib

Don't need to provide hypotheticals. Look no further than the ridiculous "Kadri for Selke" hype.

Bryan Little is/was more deserving of Selke consideration than Kadri, yet you barely hear a peep about it.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Ughhh. Society is doomed.

Hilarious!

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Didn't mention Barberio because the Avs had waiver priority over us, so it's possible Chevy put in a claim.

That said, I'm sure Bergevin would've put out courtesy calls prior to waiving him. Jets could've just given the Habs their 7th round pick back.

People keep saying that! WRONG.

Avs claimed him the 2nd time he was waived. He passed through only about 6 weeks earlier and was then waived again.

While we are at it, lets mention Halak again just for some kind of completeness. Halak has now played 16 AHL games - sv% .931

Pav for Halak right now Chevy!

 

[bustamente]

Lets face it for TSN and SN there's Toronto and the rest of Canada its the way it's been and will always be, they know who butter's their popcorn.

 

[garret9]

So Laine is either incredibly lucky, or incredibly talented?

Damn - I think I could have told you that without a lot of fancy stats.

But could you have told by how many goals are likely by each?

A wise man once said that most often statistics simply give scale to things good experts already knew.

 

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

The image of pasty middle age reporters doing chest shooters off an 18 year old hockey players chest is a minds eye image that cannot be unseen.

Here to serve.

On that note look at this.

 

[Hank Chinaski]

People keep saying that! WRONG.

Avs claimed him the 2nd time he was waived. He passed through only about 6 weeks earlier and was then waived again.

Eh? I didn't realize that. I know he was waived at the beginning of the season.

 

[Aavco Cup]

But could you have told by how many goals are likely by each?

And maybe Perreault and Petan are actually not very talented

 

[Whileee]

People keep saying that! WRONG.

Avs claimed him the 2nd time he was waived. He passed through only about 6 weeks earlier and was then waived again.

While we are at it, lets mention Halak again just for some kind of completeness. Halak has now played 16 AHL games - sv% .931

Pav for Halak right now Chevy!

Why bother?

EV save% (2016/17):

Halak 0.904
Hellebuyck 0.918

I want Hellebuyck to play as much as possible down the stretch, and then the Jets can try to figure out what to do about a second goalie in the off-season. There might be better options available than Halak, all things considered.

 

[bustamente]

Why bother?

I want Hellebuyck to play as much as possible down the stretch, and then the Jets can try to figure out what to do about a second goalie in the off-season. There might be better options available than Halak, all things considered.

Yep, there will be quite a few free agent goalie's in the off season, not all will make big coin.

 

[winnipegger]

No Marner for the Leafs. Basically cancels out no Trouba situation. I think the Jets will get up for this game. Last game before the break, playing real solid lately, Toronto narrative, etc.

Will be nice to not have 17 games in hand on every team in the league after this break

 

[tbcwpg]

Lost in this so far is that this would be a 3 game winning streak with a win tonight. We know how the team generally does in that situation.

 

[AlphaLackey]

Lost in this so far is that this would be a 3 game winning streak with a win tonight. We know how the team generally does in that situation.

Yup they're on a one-game winning streak when 2-0 in their last 2 games.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Who would have thought that if they win tonight, they would get 7 out of 8 points on this road trip. I think they find a way to do it also.

 

[Yukon Joe]

Lost in this so far is that this would be a 3 game winning streak with a win tonight. We know how the team generally does in that situation.

Hopefully that monkey is off their back now though.

Now they just have to worry about the "can't win four games in a row" streak. But we can worry about that next week.

 

[bumblebeeman]

Eh? I didn't realize that. I know he was waived at the beginning of the season.

I'm pretty sure that was the only other time he was waived, in October. At least that's what a quick google turns up. Would have been a nice depth pick up.

 

[garret9]

And maybe Perreault and Petan are actually not very talented

Petan is possible but not Perreault since the model uses a player's previous 270 shots on goal to inform the model.

 

[Gm0ney]

People keep saying that! WRONG.

Avs claimed him the 2nd time he was waived. He passed through only about 6 weeks earlier and was then waived again.

While we are at it, lets mention Halak again just for some kind of completeness. Halak has now played 16 AHL games - sv% .931

Pav for Halak right now Chevy!

I think Barberio was waived pretty early on in the season and was up and down between Montreal and St. John's a lot without having to clear again. He finally accumulated 10 games or 30 days on the roster in January and they had to waive him a second time - and that's when Colorado claimed him.

 

[JetsFan815]

This was an actual question asked to Laine by a member of the Toronto media:

"What parts of your game are superior to Matthews?"

What kind of question is that? I am glad Laine didn't take the bait.

 

[oooooooooohCanada]

Don't need to provide hypotheticals. Look no further than the ridiculous "Kadri for Selke" hype.

Bryan Little is/was more deserving of Selke consideration than Kadri, yet you barely hear a peep about it.

In what way is Little more deserving of Selke consideration than Kadri? Neither are even in the conversation but please tell me. Is it his 30% defensive zone starts? His ability to carry plugs like Ehlers, Laine, and Perrault?

The Kadri for Selke stuff wasn't a serious thing. Kadri shut down McDavid one game and then everyone saw he led the league in defensive zone start % and went nuts for a minute. Maybe that picks up in a few years when Toronto is good and Kadri is still getting 37% of his shifts in the defensive zone.

 

[Laineux]

Just 90 minutes! So hyped!

 

[YWGinYYZ]

For visiting Leaf fans: don't troll.
For Jets fans: don't troll HFLeafs. Thanks!
And, if you receive infractions, don't discuss it on the public forums. It's called disclosure, and is not allowed on any subforum.

---

Looking forward to this game tonight - rag tag defensive crew vs. a pretty damned good offense. Should be ... exciting.

Go !

 

[Hank Chinaski]

In what way is Little more deserving of Selke consideration than Kadri? Neither are even in the conversation but please tell me. Is it his 30% defensive zone starts? His ability to carry plugs like Ehlers, Laine, and Perrault?

The Kadri for Selke stuff wasn't a serious thing. Kadri shut down McDavid one game and then everyone saw he led the league in defensive zone start % and went nuts for a minute. Maybe that picks up in a few years when Toronto is good and Kadri is still getting 37% of his shifts in the defensive zone.

Since you can look up the numbers yourself, tell you in a non-stats way? Watch some of Little's games from the latter half of 2013-14 and the first half of 2014-15.

Little has never really been a legit Selke candidate, but he was damn close to it during that stretch. Would make one or two pass breakups per game, almost never cleanly lost a board battle, and just gravitated to loose pucks like Bergeron.

Hard to say what happened after that. He's still a beast, but he's never looked as good as he did in that stretch. Injuries sure haven't helped.

 

[Aavco Cup]

TBH I've been reading the Leafs forum today and it actually seems tamer and more balanced than I remember in the Kessel era.