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yeah, I just saw that. I wouldve sworn he played under BoucherActually Gallagher played 36 AHL games all under Lefebvre
yeah, I just saw that. I wouldve sworn he played under BoucherActually Gallagher played 36 AHL games all under Lefebvre
Are you sure about that? Gally moved to the AHL the year MB took over.Gallagher was coached by Boucher, not Sly.
I see 11 if you count the phoneThere's 10 good reasons why Kotkaniemi should go back to Finland rather than Laval.
Instead of telling you what are those 10 reasons, you can see all of them in one picture:
I see 11 if you count the phone
He was there for all of 27 games...I disagree big time. Improving step by step is benefical and players can develop bad habits, more pressure by starting their career too early and they flop. There are many cases in many sports.
Pacioretty used to be a in a yo-yo between the NHL and AHL and the habs finally decided to keep him the AHL as a top player for a significant period anf it helped him get his confidence back. He admited that was the best thing for his career.
Plekanec came in as an overweight player with skating issues for his size. He played significant time in the AHL and he improved a lot during these years and when he finally played in the NHL he was very mature and a way better player.
Playing a kid early could have a huge impact in his development and we have been burned in the past.
Firstly...no one said this.This idea that he needs to play in Laval to get used to NA ice doesn't make sense to me. Are people saying Elias Pettersson and Miro Heiskanen are worse today because they didn't taste a NHL training camp last year? If he goes back to Finland he's going to show up next year and adapt instantly. It's not going to have any bearing on the rest of his career.
He doesn't seem fazed at all, to be honest. And it's once again case by case.There's 10 good reasons why Kotkaniemi should go back to Finland rather than Laval.
Instead of telling you what are those 10 reasons, you can see all of them in one picture:
There will be just as much microphones in front of him next year and the year after and really, any time. As long as he's a member of the Montreal Canadiens, media is something he's going to have to learn to deal with.There's 10 good reasons why Kotkaniemi should go back to Finland rather than Laval.
Instead of telling you what are those 10 reasons, you can see all of them in one picture:
In his first 2 years in the AHL, Max would play some games in the AHL then move up to the NHL and play on a 4th line. He would be bounced back constantly. It was ridiculous.He was there for all of 27 games...
Agreed but in the post I quoted you said the Habs "finally decided to leave him there for significant period and his confidence grew".In his first 2 years in the AHL, Max would play some games in the AHL then move up to the NHL and play on a 4th line. He would be bounced back constantly. It was ridiculous.
The 3rd year, he only played 27 games but they finally stopped doing yo-yo with him and only moved him up to play on the top 6.
It definately builded up his confidence. He was by that point labelled a bust by some habs faithful after his 2nd year.Agreed but in the post I quoted you said the Habs "finally decided to leave him there for significant period and his confidence grew".
27 games isn't exactly significant.
The reason why Pacioretty got success after that last callup was because the team finally decided to use him in a role that suited him, a top 6 role, he got minutes, played the PP and played with legitimate NHL top 6 players.
I don't think he went on to have the career he had because he played 27 straight AHL games.
Agreed but in the post I quoted you said the Habs "finally decided to leave him there for significant period and his confidence grew".
27 games isn't exactly significant.
The reason why Pacioretty got success after that last callup was because the team finally decided to use him in a role that suited him, a top 6 role, he got minutes, played the PP and played with legitimate NHL top 6 players.
I don't think he went on to have the career he had because he played 27 straight AHL games.
Some people strongly believe he needs to get used to NA ice, yet here are two players who didn't and are top 5 prospects. The adaptation will happen quickly either way, whether he's in Laval or Finland.Firstly...no one said this.
Secondly...Heiskanen actually came to North America to participate in the Stars rookie camp and he was slated to attend the Stars camp but he got injured, so the Stars decided to send him back. If not for that injury, he would of went to the Stars main camp and likely have played for their AHL team this past year.
He doesn't seem fazed at all, to be honest. And it's once again case by case.
Some players will feel pressure and crumble while some players will feel pressure and thrive.
There will be just as much microphones in front of him next year and the year after and really, any time. As long as he's a member of the Montreal Canadiens, media is something he's going to have to learn to deal with.
Kotkaniemi was called a bust by some Habs faithful after 1 development camp scrimmage period....It definately builded up his confidence. He was by that point labelled a bust by some habs faithful after his 2nd year.
Including the player himself.Some people strongly believe he needs to get used to NA ice, yet here are two players who didn't and are top 5 prospects.
If the adaptation will happen quickly, then why delay it another year?The adaptation will happen quickly either way, whether he's in Laval or Finland.
Ok fair enough - but what will he learn, in Finland, to teach him how to better deal with the obsessive Montreal media???Not in finland.
He's a kid, let him develop away from MTL's medias crows. When he'll be ready to jump in the NHL, then it comes with the territory but right now, he'll be better off in his hometown with his family and friends instead of here dealing with the pressure of the MTL media.
No he doesn't right now, but let's face it, this will be a very different story if he get those microphones in his face after 10 games where he didn't do **** in Lava and he has to answer the dumbest questions on earth days in and days out.
You're talking about the Habs he could go from top line center to fourth line in two games, not much better than the Oilers ( even if I must admit Edmonton was a mess at developing their prospects for a long time)Edmonton moved Pulju around too much and never tried to build his confidence, instead they messed up with it.
Starts in the NHL, gets benched for mistakes, sees press box for mistakes, plays here and there 8mins per game, and then after the 2nd half starts gets send to AHL.
If Kotka stays in NA they should avoid that tactic.
Kotka has a better controll of his frame than Pulju though, it's what Pulju has really struggled with.
You're talking about the Habs he could go from top line center to fourth line in two games, not much better than the Oilers ( even if I must admit Edmonton was a mess at developing their prospects for a long time)
Including the player himself.
If the adaptation will happen quickly, then why delay it another year?
Might of had to do with the players he was trying to initiate the breakout with...He could barely initiate a breakout at developmental camp. Look at him now. If he were as strong as Hishier was at 18 he'd be ready to be a NHL player.
So you expect them to be impact players right away then?My point isn't that he shouldn't be in the AHL, more that getting used to NA ice is something that's going to happen quickly either way. Canuck fans aren't worried about Pettersson's and Dahlen's slow adaptation, because it isn't a thing.
He played with Ylonen...Might of had to do with the players he was trying to initiate the breakout with...
So you expect them to be impact players right away then?
i was glad Kot scored a goal, just so i could come on here and read all the rediculous comments about how one pre-season goal will hail him as our next franchise hero and saviour.....Kot with an easy 40+ goals in his rookie season, this kid will put matthews and hughes to shame!....just look at the goal he scored in his first game against a split team of rookies and a backup goalie! what a hero!!
One pre-season goal, (insurance goal not GTG or GWG hardly anoints anyone as hero) Matthews has shown ability already in the NHL, Hughes Quinn, Jack or Luke haven't played a regular season game like Kotkaneimi. Read my comment again, see where it says anything like what you read into it. Comprehension is needed when being a critic, am I missing anything? Jesperi played a good game for a rookie center #3 OV pick for the Habs at the Bell Centre. This bodes well for his future, the pressure these kids have to endure is immense, extra pressure exerted upon them for producing is unnecessary IMHO.