Dreger: Islanders 1st round pick to vegas (per source)

[Paralyzer]

Yes, keep eating up Staple. He definitely sounds like he knows what the hell he is talking about. He can't even get his players in order. I bet you it's not Grabovski or Kulemin and it's actually 2017 1st + something else to not pick a forward. Seeing how big of a gong show this has been, I don't know how anyone could think Hall for Hamonic was even true...

Just awful reporting. Eklund-esque bad. At least PRETEND you heard SOMETHING then say it was nixed...

 

[Beautvillier]

Yes, keep eating up Staple. He definitely sounds like he knows what the hell he is talking about. He can't even get his players in order. I bet you it's not Grabovski or Kulemin and it's actually 2017 1st + something else to not pick a forward. Seeing how big of a gong show this has been, I don't know how anyone could think Hall for Hamonic was even true...

Just awful reporting. Eklund-esque bad. At least PRETEND you heard SOMETHING then say it was nixed...

you don't even follow the isles but you're furious that our beat writer tried to get information.

 

[crasherino]

This seems to be one of the times where Art is not simply serving as the official "unofficial team leaker" and is actually trying to do some investigating via his contacts. Looks like he's getting the general concept down but having trouble with the details. Not the easiest task considering the team he's dealing with here.

This whole investigative journalism is new to him so we need to cut him some slack.

 

[Dipietro39]

How do you correlate what he said with being salty about Reinhart???
how can u say someone is salty when u go there right away??

Anyway, if I'm McPhee I'm not sure how grabo and a first is more valuable that CDH or strome or nelson. Just seems like he's losing value unless he loves draft picks

Simple, bc those players wouldn't be unprotected if Snow didn't have this deal in place.

 

[King In The North]

Simple, bc those players wouldn't be unprotected if Snow didn't have this deal in place.

Exactly. These lists are the result of deals in place. Vegas didn't take a trade DeHaan would be on the list.

 

[Deadweight]

Hypothetically if we trade one of De Haan/Hamonic do you want our defense to be

Leddy-Boychuk
Seidenberg-De Haan/Hamonic
Pelech-Pulock
Mayfield

With first call up being Devon Toews?

I would not. I think a depth dman would be availible during free agency for a small price

 

[Psychoil]

Simple, bc those players wouldn't be unprotected if Snow didn't have this deal in place.

Well, can't wait to see what the deal is. I can't believe i'm saying this, but I'm actually excited for the NHL awards show tomorrow

 

[King In The North]

Well, can't wait to see what the deal is. I can't believe i'm saying this, but I'm actually excited for the NHL awards show tomorrow

Whoa. This was Bettman's master plan all along.

 

[mouser]

Yup, gotta be Hickey or Halak at this point.

I'm leaning towards Hickey, because unless Vegas already has a buyer lined up for Halak, him backing up Fleury will not likely be a happy marriage.

Plus, Staple named dropped Hickey as a potential captain for Vegas a while back.

If the deal was agreed to before the freeze started I can't imagine any way Vegas would have had a buyer already lined up and agreed to select Halak. It's likely Vegas didn't start agreeing to any pick and flips until after the protection lists were announced.

 

[Deen]

They are going to take Kulemin from what I have heard.

 

[Paralyzer]

you don't even follow the isles but you're furious that our beat writer tried to get information.

I'm not mad, I say this because Isles fans swear by this guy for everything Isles news, and I get that, but to say he is 100% informed is waaaay out to lunch.

 

[periferal]

Yes, keep eating up Staple. He definitely sounds like he knows what the hell he is talking about. He can't even get his players in order. I bet you it's not Grabovski or Kulemin and it's actually 2017 1st + something else to not pick a forward. Seeing how big of a gong show this has been, I don't know how anyone could think Hall for Hamonic was even true...

Just awful reporting. Eklund-esque bad. At least PRETEND you heard SOMETHING then say it was nixed...

Staple just happens to be the source when it comes to Islanders information. When he reports something you can basically take it to the bank. We'll know tomorrow for sure, but far more likely this happened...

Probably because Islanderland is up in arms over the protected list and perhaps even threatening to cancel season tickets, Staple is given a scoop which is basically an article perfectly situated to calm fans (customers) fears:



Then McKenzie blows it into the hockey stratosphere...





Almost immediately the NHL offices catch wind of this report and it goes exactly against their desire to have ALL VEGAS DEALS announced Wednesday at the same time. They reach out to Staple/Newsday and order some sort of retraction...



Staple brings up his most recent article on Microsoft Word and makes a few small edits (really just taking any mention of Kulemin out of the article and replacing his photo with one of snow). He is also still allowed to mention Grabovski because everyone knows he's basically retired. He then uploads it to Newsday.com and Tweets...



And just in case anyone stumbled across his first "Kulemin" article, he reposts the new one to fully satisfy the league office...



And of course McKenzie follows suit...



I have no doubt that apologies were issued in private and all very stressful for Staple and thus...



All that said, it doesn't change the fact that Staple's original article is probably accurate and Kulemin and Grabovski are going to Vegas for the 2017 1st rounder and perhaps a 3rd in 2018.

 

[Chardo]

Yes, keep eating up Staple. He definitely sounds like he knows what the hell he is talking about. He can't even get his players in order. I bet you it's not Grabovski or Kulemin and it's actually 2017 1st + something else to not pick a forward. Seeing how big of a gong show this has been, I don't know how anyone could think Hall for Hamonic was even true...

Just awful reporting. Eklund-esque bad. At least PRETEND you heard SOMETHING then say it was nixed...

To his credit, he has admitted and apologized for the shoddy reporting.

 

[rent free]

isles should have protected strome/nelson over ladd and how snake would it be if vegas was planning on taking de haan instead of those forwards?

 

[seabass45]

isles should have protected strome/nelson over ladd and how snake would it be if vegas was planning on taking de haan instead of those forwards?

Ladd has a full NMC.

 

[rent free]

Ladd has a full NMC.

oh didn't know that. thanks

 

[jcfogerty]

Isles protected 5 D, I imagine this trade is to lay off some forwards.

I heard today that it is possibly to take Grabovski. I think he is on LTIR ?

 

[PWJunior]

I heard today that it is possibly to take Grabovski. I think he is on LTIR ?

Grabovski is exempt from the ED. He has to be traded in a separate deal.

 

[jcfogerty]

Grabovski is exempt from the ED. He has to be traded in a separate deal.

Thanks for the clarification !!

 

[CodeE]

Anyone discuss this tweet response yet? Staple responded to a fan specifically signaling out Strome, Nelson, and CDH as three of the players (among a couple of others) that the Isles are paying Vegas not to take.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Anyone discuss this tweet response yet? Staple responded to a fan specifically signaling out Strome, Nelson, and CDH as three of the players (among a couple of others) that the Isles are paying Vegas not to take.

I'd have to think it would take more than a 1st to protect all 3?

 

[Curufinwe]

Why pay a 1st if it won't protect your good players?

If they want a 1st but still want to take Nelson or De Haan, just let them take one and keep the 1st.

 

[seabass45]

Anyone discuss this tweet response yet? Staple responded to a fan specifically signaling out Strome, Nelson, and CDH as three of the players (among a couple of others) that the Isles are paying Vegas not to take.

And he mentioned they weren't taking Kulemin, right? At that point it could be anyone, you could make a case for Hickey, Cizikas, Halak... prob not Clutterbuck but who knows.

I also still wonder if Pelech was kept because he's the defenseman who has been dangled in a trade. Of course nobody but Isles fans know about him but he does still have some decent upside and he's looked good so far.

 

[seabass45]

Why pay a 1st if it won't protect your good players?

If they want a 1st but still want to take Nelson or De Haan, just let them take one and keep the 1st.

Garth has an elaborate plan and like last year's attempt to sign Stamkos, it might blow up in his face.

 

[PWJunior]

Garth has an elaborate plan and like last year's attempt to sign Stamkos, it might blow up in his face.

McPhee and Snow seem to have a great relationship, seems like there's real trust there. I doubt either are there to screw the other over. Gouging for Snow is only reserved for Chiarelli it seems.