Is John Chayka the best GM in the NHL?

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Not even close.

 

[DearDiary]

The goal is to be a cup contending team. I'd say Yzerman is currently at the top, Lighting will be cup contenders for the foreseeable future

 

[SillyRabbit]

To think that Jim Benning refused to renew Chakya's contract when he was an independent analytics consultant under the Gillis regime, exclusively providing information to the Canucks.

That's right, Benning doesn't just bleed player and draft assets, he bleeds staff as well (Gilman and Crawford are two others who Benning let go and were snatched up immediately).

 

[Alwalys]

Until tippett gets the fat boot, no.
Team is badly underperforming its talent.

 

[tokyoite]

Why is Tippett still coaching?

This.

 

[sxvnert]

Best to evaluate the next few years worth of moves and how he constructs this team. So far I'm impressed.

 

[SirPaste]

Absolutely not

 

[Slot]

Why is Tippett still coaching?

Cuz he's the real GM?

 

[Bieber fever]

Why is Tippett still coaching?

Probably because they can't afford to hire another head coach lol

I would take an analytics nerd before relics from the past like Chiarelli , Lou and Bergevin

 

[kingsfan28]

When you win and do it year after year, bring in new talent to replace old, then yes. All he's done is buy up a bunch of dead contracts and collect prospects, nothing more. That team is nowhere near to winning anything.

 

[mightyquack]

Hasn't he been a GM for like 8 months?

 

[ujju2]

I like most of his moves, but team is bad.

He's rebuilding the team really well imo. Great acquisition of prospects and picks.

However, I will call him a great GM once he gets Arizona out of the basement, and those prospects and picks start being useful, good NHL pieces on a winning team. I think he will be able to do that much at least. But until then, everyone else is correct in that he's been GM for 6 months on a basement team.

 

[JetsFan815]

To all those saying "tanking is easy". I disagree. Getting management to buy into the tank is part of the GM's responsibility and executing a tank without taking shortcuts is not easy. Look at the Canucks for example

 

[ujju2]

Probably because they can't afford to hire another head coach lol

I would take an analytics nerd before relics from the past like Chiarelli , Lou and Bergevin

Um... Aren't Edmonton and Montreal doing well? Anyways, I like Chayka. Your criticism of those 3 "relics" is unwarranted and has no evidence, however.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Kevin Cheveldayoff is imo.

 

[SirPaste]

Kevin Cheveldayoff is imo.

You serious?

 

[mightyquack]

To all those saying "tanking is easy". I disagree. Getting management to buy into the tank is part of the GM's responsibility and executing a tank without taking shortcuts is not easy. Look at the Canucks for example

Probably more speaks to Coyotes ownership not being delusional idiots compared to the Canucks ownership then GM skill.

 

[caley]

I mean...no?

Hard to judge a GM before the team has had any success. I remember early 'Tambellini is a great GM' and 'MacTavish is a great GM' posts because of the assets the Oilers were accumulating, getting the team to win afterwards is another matter entirely.

 

[rypper]

To think that Jim Benning refused to renew Chakya's contract when he was an independent analytics consultant under the Gillis regime, exclusively providing information to the Canucks.

That's right, Benning doesn't just bleed player and draft assets, he bleeds staff as well (Gilman and Crawford are two others who Benning let go and were snatched up immediately).

This nightmare can't end soon enough.

 

[PlamsUnlimited]

Nope.

 

[Reddwit]

After all the moves Chayka made, everyone was talking about how Arizona had all this amazing young talent ready to take the next step and that Arizona would be a tough team to beat thanks to Chayka's brilliance. Instead, the team is back in tank mode, and that is also due to Chayka's brilliance. Chayka apparently just can't lose.

 

[Drake1588]

For the moment, he's just the GM of a terrible team.

In his six months on the job, he's neither responsible for the sorry state of that team, nor has he done much that you can actually evaluate as far as futures are concerned. By definition, it's too soon to know what he has assembled. He's registered an Incomplete.

Tanking is not difficult. It's easy to be terrible deliberately. Turning the fruits of that suckage into solid assets takes some finesse, coupled with some lottery luck and strong draft class(es) when you do it. He's not even a pioneer with respect to tanking to turn over a mediocre-to-poor roster completely and build from the ground up. This is a model that is at least 10-15 years old now, at least on the scale at which it is now practiced. It no longer takes bravery or vision to adopt that approach. It's expected.

Time will tell as to his choices. Right now it's all speculation, as it must be when you take your fungible assets and turn them all into futures.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

I would take an analytics nerd before relics from the past like Chiarelli , Lou and Bergevin

cool

I'll take a GM from winning teams

 

[Pia8988]

You can't be the best GM in the league when your team is the 2nd worst points wise.

Even then, under 1 year is way too soon to say either way. Awful thread.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Sad times when a team is tanking and some think the GM is doing a good job