Hurricanes Off Season Thread: When Tlusty doesn't score 40, who will be to blame?

[Carolinas Identity*]

You've really never heard of Antti Bergeroninen? He's the best defensive defenseman in Finland!

fixed.

 

[Jussijuice]

Me. Want. Hal. Gill.

Gill is like a bigger, slower, but overall better Bryan Allen.

Would fit the Canes needs just fine, doubt they pick him up on waivers but if he clears there is a good chance he'd be put on re-entry or buyout waivers... Canes might be interested then.

Although knowing JR, he will want to give up at least one decent asset (Biega or Levi maybe?) and send them back Westgarth as a Cap dump.

 

[bleedgreen]

My key take away from the article is that we only ended up with 4 picks in a deep draft. The Nurse/Ristolainen turd wash was goofiness.

I linked an article in the last page that might more succinctly make your point.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

That's a name straight out of an NHL13 draft.

And he'd be from South Korea

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

They're pretty lazy with a lot of the names. They give Swedes and Finns appropriate names, but not Norwegians.

They give Czechs and Slovaks appropriate names, but not Croatian's or Slovene's

They give Germans and Swiss appropriate names, but not Austrians.

etc.

 

[Vagrant]

Michael Sauer was not extended a QO by New York. So weird how they went from being stacked with depth to being devastated by injuries back there between Sauer and Staal. If Sauer can pass a physical he might be worth a look see.

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

Speaking of weird names, anyone remember the article from last week I think(?), where the guy said we should sign a Russian to keep Semin happy//motivated?

 

[Brock Anton]

Speaking of weird names, anyone remember the article from last week I think(?), where the guy said we should sign a Russian to keep Semin happy//motivated?

Samsonov want return a cane. (E3)

 

[bleedgreen]

Michael Sauer was not extended a QO by New York. So weird how they went from being stacked with depth to being devastated by injuries back there between Sauer and Staal. If Sauer can pass a physical he might be worth a look see.

He's not even close from I read. Sound like they would qualify him if they thought he had a chance of coming back. Letting him go is pretty ominous. Hasn't played since 2011 and may not ever again.

 

[Sens1Canes2]

My key take away from the article is that we only ended up with 4 picks in a deep draft. The Nurse/Ristolainen turd wash was goofiness.

Meh, from what I hear it wasn't so deep.

 

[Finnish Jerk Train]

Hal Gill, please!

Our roster is fairly young and could use a grizzled veteran. This guy is near the end, but he's got another year or two left in him and surely has a lot of wisdom to impart on our 27-30 year old defensive corps. Besides, we could benefit from having another defensive-minded guy. He's only slated to make $2m - seems like he's worth a shot to me.

 

[Swag Surf Aho]

Big pass on Hal Gill.

 

[FlyingSquirrels]

http://www.canescountry.com/2013/7/2/4485390/does-carolina-maximize-draft-picks

Great article that touches on some of our discussions over the weekend. How we waste picks, and examples when we did it and the reasons. Jr should be held accountable overall no dubt, I've always hated how he does this.

I still stand behind the sekera trade overall, it was needed. Questionable decisions previously made put us in the position to be exasperated that such moves are needed.

This is article is EXACTLY what I have been screaming about! Jim GD Rutherford has no clue how to build a system and needlessly tosses in picks and prospects for no mother ****ing reason! The article doesn't even mention the Alt debacle, which is now even more magnified since we didn't even quality Pither. Ridiculous.

Someone please forward this to JR's inbox. He has been held unaccountable forever and it is getting ridiculous how he mismanages the assets of this franchise. And if Francis is taking his GM training tips from JR's teachings then we are screwed for countless more years.

 

[Caniac125330]

This is article is EXACTLY what I have been screaming about! Jim GD Rutherford has no clue how to build a system and needlessly tosses in picks and prospects for no mother ****ing reason! The article doesn't even mention the Alt debacle, which is now even more magnified since we didn't even quality Pither. Ridiculous.

Someone please forward this to JR's inbox. He has been held unaccountable forever and it is getting ridiculous how he mismanages the assets of this franchise. And if Francis is taking his GM training tips from JR's teachings then we are screwed for countless more years.

Something I've been meaning to share on here for a while is that Jason Karmanos is the next GM, not Francis. I go to school with Ron's son.

 

[What the Faulk]

Meh. He points out that McBain could have been bought out and Buffalo could have thrown in a pick. They're rebuilding...why would they do that? Why would the Canes do that when they're nearish the cap themselves?

This draft would not solve those questions about next year that he poses at the end.

I don't disagree with his overall point, but I definitely disagree with how he makes it.

 

[Jussijuice]

As hard as it is to believe, I think McBain was actually a piece of value in that trade.

At the very least I seriously doubt he would have made it through waivers if the Canes wanted to give him up for free. Even Boychuk got claimed.

 

[Caniac125330]

The defensemen rankings are... interesting to say the least. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...nking-top-available-players-at-every-position

 

[DaveG]

ok, which one of you ****ers wrote that thing?

 

[FlyingSquirrels]

The defensemen rankings are... interesting to say the least. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...nking-top-available-players-at-every-position

How ****faced was he when he came up with those defensive rankings?

 

[What the Faulk]

This is Bleacher Report we're talking about. They're one step above getting drunk and arguing sports at a bar.

 

[Discipline Daddy]

Never going to happen for several reasons, but I'm curious if the value is there. I could see us having to add a little bit.


Seth Jones


Jordan Staal

They'd get a top line center, we'd get a potential #1 D. They get someone with a guaranteed contract for 10 years, we'd get someone with 3 cost-controlled years. It'd open up a big old hole in our top 6 and it'd probably piss off our captain and 99% of the FB page. Just curious.

 

[What the Faulk]

They already have David Legwand. Can't see them adding a slightly better (arguably even) version of him.

 

[bluedevil58*]

I really don't know where to begin. I'm sick and tired of losing. Looking at what we currently have and we all know it's likely to know change. Here is what I foresee happening>

1. Our bottom 6 will not be able to score. relying on Dalpe, Bowman, Nash, Terry, and Boychuck to score.... We're in big trouble people.

2. Our top 6 will be shut down.

3. Our backup goalie will not be able to win us any games.

4. More injuries will happen due to us facing bigger and more physical teams.

5. Us all being bitter come December.

I just don't see it happening. The worst part is that we lack the cap room to do any reasonable signings. I can almost gauruntee it;s going to be another one of those JR experiment/bargain type of deals that almost never work out.

At this point, I am all for buying out/putting our bottom 6 on waivers with the exception of Dwyer and then going on to sign big players that can hit and try to establish a fore check. I just think we're in big trouble guys. I am not feeling very good about this team.....

 

[Joe McGrath]

I really don't know where to begin. I'm sick and tired of losing. Looking at what we currently have and we all know it's likely to know change. Here is what I foresee happening>

1. Our bottom 6 will not be able to score. relying on Dalpe, Bowman, Nash, Terry, and Boychuck to score.... We're in big trouble people.

2. Our top 6 will be shut down.

3. Our backup goalie will not be able to win us any games.

4. More injuries will happen due to us facing bigger and more physical teams.

5. Us all being bitter come December.

I just don't see it happening. The worst part is that we lack the cap room to do any reasonable signings. I can almost gauruntee it;s going to be another one of those JR experiment/bargain type of deals that almost never work out.

At this point, I am all for buying out/putting our bottom 6 on waivers with the exception of Dwyer and then going on to sign big players that can hit and try to establish a fore check. I just think we're in big trouble guys. I am not feeling very good about this team.....

Well yeah if you believe that neither the top 6 or bottom 6 will be able to score I guess they're ****ed.....

 

[CanesAvs16]

Well yeah if you believe that neither the top 6 or bottom 6 will be able to score I guess they're ****ed.....

I'm just hoping we don't encounter injuries like we did this year in bunches. Remember we were doing great until Ward got injured. Our defense was pretty horrific all year, but I'm hoping a few deals occur this offseason until I hear JR say those infamous words "we like our group". Offensively, I think we are ok. I really don't see much reason to fret/act like they are going to spiral again this year (I guess I'm a little more optimistic). We will see what happens.