Value of: How Much Is That Dougie In The Window?: Hamilton's Next Contract

[Perennial]

What do you think Hamilton's next contract will be worth?

He's really come into his own the last 2 seasons, and there are a number of teams (Arizona, Winnipeg, Ottawa, New Jersey, etc) who could use his services and will have the cap space to make it happen

Unless he's willing to take less money for a specific destination (ie. his hometown team Toronto), I think we could see him land a contract worth north of 9 million per season

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[nickdawg95]

Thread title should have been - Teach me how to dougie.

I think he'll sign somewhere between 7.75-9m

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Pietrangelo-ish?

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

What do you think Hamilton's next contract will be worth?

He's really come into his own the last 2 seasons, and there are a number of teams (Arizona, Winnipeg, Ottawa, New Jersey, etc) who could use his services and will have the cap space to make it happen

Unless he's willing to take less money for a specific destination (ie. his hometown team Toronto), I think we could see him land a contract worth north of 9 million per season

Dougie don’t wanna be in Toronto.

He shouldn’t get as much as AP but he’s for sure worth more than Krug. Canes would like to get it done for around 8AAV which is reasonable.

 

[Perennial]

Dougie don’t wanna be in Toronto.

He shouldn’t get as much as AP but he’s for sure worth more than Krug. Canes would like to get it done for around 8AAV which is reasonable.

Hamilton is 3.5 years younger, and arguably just as good as AP... why shouldn't he get paid as much?

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Hamilton is 3.5 years younger, and arguably just as good as AP... why shouldn't he get paid as much?

He’s not as good. Well this year he’s playing better for sure but not history leading up to this year.
Dougie is a beast no doubt but he racks up points on a very good Carolina pp. He’s an important part of it but you could interchange him with other guys and the results would still be there.

 

[Perennial]

He’s not as good. Well this year he’s playing better for sure but not history leading up to this year.
Dougie is a beast no doubt but he racks up points on a very good Carolina pp. He’s an important part of it but you could interchange him with other guys and the results would still be there.

It's not just this year, if not for his injury last season, I think he would've been a Norris finalist...

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

It's not just this year, if not for his injury last season, I think he would've been a Norris finalist...

For sure. He definitely would have been up there. I can’t see the Canes going to $8.5. Dougie will get his money and Canes will pay up but they gotta meet in the middle somewhere. They’ve got a good thing going and they both know it

 

[Perennial]

For sure. He definitely would have been up there. I can’t see the Canes going to $8.5. Dougie will get his money and Canes will pay up but they gotta meet in the middle somewhere. They’ve got a good thing going and they both know it

Over his last 92 games, he has 20 goals, 57 assists, 77 points and is +48

Dougie doesn't have to "meet in the middle" if he doesn't want to...

If the Canes aren't willing to give him 8.5 million, some other team surely will

And like I said in the OP, I could see him getting 9+ million from someone

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Over his last 92 games, he has 20 goals, 57 assists, 77 points and is +48

Dougie doesn't have to "meet in the middle" if he doesn't want to...

If the Canes aren't willing to give him 8.5 million, some other team surely will

And like I said in the OP, I could see him getting 9+ million from someone

Having been a square peg in a round hole in two organizations early in his career I’m sure he values having found a home in Carolina where he clearly s comfortable. That had value as well. If he wants to just go for the biggest payday then sure someone might break the bank for him but the Canes aren’t going to overpay to keep the guy. Aho is at $8.5 and he’s the face of the franchise. Dougie’s not getting more than him.

 

[seanlinden]

Hamilton is 3.5 years younger, and arguably just as good as AP... why shouldn't he get paid as much?

Was thinking this...

There's also somewhat of a "light at the end of the tunnel" with respect to COVID...

Maybe Aho's $8.5m creates an internal ceiling for him; but on the open market he's likely worth every bit of what Alex Pietrangelo is being paid. Some other poster mentioned his stats over the last 2 years:
93 games, 20 goals, 77 points.

Rarely hurt, great size and skating ability, and this is a little bit of a "down year" from a goalscoring perspective. Like Pietrangelo, he's likely to age pretty well too.

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

NJ offers him $9m x 7 years

 

[untouchable21]

I have no doubt that if he chooses to test free agency that there will be interest and likely an offer from the Jets.

How was his relationship with Ron Francis when he was in Carolina? Could also see the Kraken recruiting him in free agency as they will have the cap space and and a possible good working relationship to build off.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Would take him on the Habs if the next GM can somehow make place for him

 

[Dominance]

Fringe Norris contender, gotta figure he gets at least $9M if his agent is decent and he doesn’t willingly take a bit of a cut to stay/go somewhere.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

I have no doubt that if he chooses to test free agency that there will be interest and likely an offer from the Jets.

How was his relationship with Ron Francis when he was in Carolina? Could also see the Kraken recruiting him in free agency as they will have the cap space and and a possible good working relationship to build off.

No relationship. Hamilton was a Waddell stamp on the roster.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

From Carolina either 7 x $8,750,000 or 8 x $8,750,000 give or take.

 

[Roboturner913]

$7.5 to $8 million a year. 3 or 4 years I would think.

As a Canes fan, I'm on the fence about re-signing him at the contract he's likely to get. I think he's a $6 million player, not an $8 million one. Too much inconsistency, too many holes in his game. People are going to look at his points production and assume he had some great year, but I've been mostly underwhelmed so far.

I'll of course reserve the right to change my mind if he goes on one of his famous dominating hot streaks for the playoffs.

 

[Jerkbait]

Dougie don’t wanna be in Toronto.

He shouldn’t get as much as AP but he’s for sure worth more than Krug. Canes would like to get it done for around 8AAV which is reasonable.

Hamilton is a top 4 or 5 D. Worth as much as AP easy and he may indeed want to play in his hometown.
He easily gets 8.5 to 9.5 from almost any team . Not a lesf fan but can see them paying 9mil for 5 years

 

[spockBokk]

If he stays in CAR the number is likely $7.5-7.75M x 5-6yrs. If he hits ufa, which I see no reason for him not to, he most definitely gets $8M+ x 7yrs. I don’t see $9M, unless some team is desperate and all he wants is money vs playing on a contender.

 

[Discipline Daddy]

This is really one of the more fascinating free agency decisions Carolina has had to make in a long, long time. We dealt Faulk a year early as Faulk was probably seeking a 6-7 year big money deal. For sure, Hamilton is a better player and will want more. Hamilton will occasionally make some defensive lapses which make you shake his head. He also is one of the best offensive defensemen in the game today. He is elite offensively, and above average defensively, and can play 25 minutes a game. He has a great attitude and the team/fans love him. He is also aided greatly by playing with Slavin, who might be the best defensive player in the National Hockey League. He fits the team perfectly, and the team fits him.

My biggest concern is term. He turns 28 this offseason, which gives him some good years left. His game probably won't fall off real fast as it doesn't rely on elite speed. It's more about his reach, positioning, lateral puck moving, and shot. He plays the game perfectly for his size. Anyway, I'm concerned with going 7 or 8 years. Next year we must re-sign Necas. In a few years we must re-sign Aho, Pesce, and Teravainen. It's a long ways off, but you have to play big contracts very carefully. I'd be much more comfortable paying Hamilton elite money for 3 years ($9M, 3 years) than big money for a longer term ($8M, 7 years). Obviously Hamilton is going to want that term.

 

[MinJaBen]

From Carolina either 7 x $8,750,000 or 8 x $8,750,000 give or take.

He might get that first one somewhere, but I can't see the Canes being willing to go there. Unfortunately, as I really want him to stay on the this team, but I think ownership and management are more interested in keeping the players with the peak salaries lower so the supporting cast members can be better. If Dougie is willing to do something in the AAV range of $8M, then maybe...

 

[Just Linda]

I've said it a bunch but I can see Seattle making a competitive offer. 9mX7 possibly

 

[goonybird]

I think the Devils just give him Subban money and after a year split Subban's money amongst Bratt + Hughes. They're flexible enough to do that and still have a good bit of cap space to spare.

but they won't.

 

[1865]

I’d love him in Philly if we can make the money work.