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AgentNaslund said:
Wasn’t it Boston’s french import that had the really big hit on AO in the WJC?
Ovechkin is(was is not the correct tense) cocky but might have enough skill to ‘pull it off’ and is an interesting playing to watch because of his Attitude.
A cocky player as a teammate is not that bad as long as they are not a one-man show(puck hog ect)
Crosby and AO seem to share the same fate in that they are both targets of other players. With a bottom weighed draft lottery Crosby might find himself playing for the Capitalis alongside AO when the NHL resumes(when one is being targeted the other should have better scoring chances)
Mutual Bullseyes-ary is what it should be called.
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UltimoRoger said:
Last time i checked you can still sit dressed on the bench because of a hurt shoulder and not just leave ur teammates standing, i know thats what i did, and i wasn't even the captain...We all know every body has got excuses
Taxman said:
Since there is no season, Ovechkin will start playing in the NHL at almost 20 ... so of course he won't be able to score as much as Kovalchuk did.
And I would like to add that NHL stats lost all value
today because of the 94 lockout and this year's cancelled season.
Come on AgentNaslund,your posts are usually good,this seems a little too biased.AgentNaslund said:
Yes, he did look bad the gold medal game but in no way do I think that's a good
indication of what kind of player he will become.One of the reasons Canada was
able to zero in on him was his team wasn't very deep especially compared to
Canada.In today's game any player is succeptable to injury-but there's no
indication that he is especially proned to injury.
You may be right that Kovalchuk will be better but Ovechkin is one major talent.
They are both very fast,does anyone know if they raced each other in a skills
competition.
pei fan said:
Ovechkin is faster than Kovalchuck, at least according to an RSL skills race a couple of months ago. He has a great attitude (the jerk myth is amusing) and does other things Ilya doesn't do as documented ad nauseum. But how can anyone argue with Kovalchuck's success?
But for the sake of argument and sheer boredome:
1. Kovalchuck
1a. Ovechkin
1b. Malkin
2. Datsyuk
3. Zherdev
4. Frolov
AgentNaslund said:
Ovechkin's bday fell on a later date and is why he was drafted near 19 years of age.So that's why he was almost a year older than Kovy and many others when he was drafted.If he was legal for the 2003 draft,he still would of went first overall.
Why do fans also judge a player by their size?It means nothing.Who cares if Kovy was 15lbs heavier than Ovy,really?
And please explain how Ovy was being cocky.Are you reffering to his playing style?To me cocky would be Ribeiro or even Nashville prospect Radulov.Ovy doesn't display their attitudes.
And finally;As for the WJC gold medal game,what do you think would of happened if Crosby was russian and Ovy was canadian?I'm sure Sid would have been aching after hits from Phaneuf,Richards,Carter,etc............
As for my pics "All Round":
Ovechkin
Frolov
Kovalchuk
Malkin
Zherdev
Datsyuk
Offensively:
Kovy
Ovy
Malkin
Datsyuk
Zherdev
Frolov
I'm really confused about this cocky thing. Where did that come from? I've never seen anywhere but here say anything but great things about the kid's attitude. Is it just because he's not canadian?
yeah the attitude bashing is just ridiculous...I've never read any of accounts that convey that.
I think it is impossible to compare Kovalchuk who has already proved that he can score in the NHL. Ovechkin will have to do the same and has the POTENTIAL to do so. Though in the long run I would guess Kovalchuk would score more goals and Oveckin more assists.
I think it is impossible to compare Kovalchuk who has already proved that he can score in the NHL. Ovechkin will have to do the same and has the POTENTIAL to do so. Though in the long run I would guess Kovalchuk would score more goals and Oveckin more assists.
Astaroth
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Kovalchuk hands down, he's just a proven beast and so young and full of so much potential. Ovocop is impressive at times but not enough for me to put him above Kovalchuk based on potential.
Yay Frolov gets some love thx! Frolov is amazing All around. Offensivelly i may have to agree with you yet i think he will put up more points then some of those you put above him look at the stats in the Russian leauge right now he was #2 for first half of the seasonMr.Brownov said:
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deathbear said:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid[]=56745
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid[]=662
Considering their #'s, i disagree.
Bure was also scoring those #'s in the high flying early 90's. Around one of those years, the scoring was way up. Their #'s are very comparable.
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wilka91 said:
You cant fault a player for being selfish with the puck when he's one best goal scorers in the world right now
PSUhockey34
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TomACE said:
thats like saying phaneuf is going to have an injury riddled career b/c he plays a physical game
Behind Enemy Lines
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Kovalchuk by a wide margin. Skill, size, snarl. This is a very special player who will be even more dominant with some maturity.
Captain Conservative
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Yes no doubt he's the man in the Super League right now.Offensively I wanted to put him ahead of Zherdev and possibly Datsyuk,but I feel that his game is so well rounded compared to the two,that they both will probably edge him in points.Not many mind you.I would love to see Frolov dominate the NHL also!AnThGrt said:
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Habsfan 32 said:
Nice seeing all the love Malkin is getting. Three in one thread and none Pens' fans that I could see. I however would not say Malkin > AO right now except tongue in cheek (as I have in the past). And I am a Pens' fan. I think that both are huge talents with lots of potential and I am very happy that the Pens have one of them. Comparisons are not that easy as both play very different games. If pressed though I would say that both are pretty close though with AO with the edge as he has developed a year over Malkin and Malkin still has to prove that he will continue to develope. But AO and Malkin close is something very few thought not so long ago. In one way Malkin has a slight edge in that he did not go #1, that is a two edged sword, AO as savior is a tough position to live up to though he certainly has the ability to perhaps do so. Malkin does not have that monkey on his back. He also is not likely to read his press clippings because compared to AO he still has very few.
As a ps of where Malkin has developed to, before the draft I had made the offer on the trades board to see if Malkin plus Whitney would be accepted for AO. One took me up on it. I wonder how many would trade Malkin + Whitney for AO now? I for one would not make that trade and keep Malkin. I wonder how many Caps fans would pull the trigger on that now?
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