Value of: Holtby to Colorado

Discussion in 'Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk' started by Murzu, Apr 14, 2018 at 6:15 PM.

  1. Murzu

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    What do you guys want? Something around Avs this years 1st round pick?

    We only have one guy signed for next season (Varlamov) and he is injured way too often to be trusted as #1 goalie. You'd still have Grubauer and Samsonov and save a lot of cap space to sign Carlson and other players.
     
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    Thing is, we can resign carlson already cause the cap is going up.

    Caps would likely want a first rounder but probably settle for forward prospects
     
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    What does this mean? The first rounder's mid round, that's not that valuable.
     
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    I'd rather target Samsonov than Holtby, and he'd probably be cheaper.

    I doubt either are moved though, more likely Grubauer is gone and they roll with Holtby-Samsonov going forward.
     
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    If you want the Avs' 1st rounder for Holtby - 16th overall - it's yours.
     
  6. Murzu

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    Basically this.

    Do Caps fans find this fair value? I'd like to see Avs goatlending fixed long term. I trust that Holtby can be that fix for ~5 next years at least.
     
  7. Voodoo Glow Skulls

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    I like it.

    What about adding Yakupov for Barber?
     
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    As a side deal, Varlamov would be a good add to several teams. Looking at the Islanders, Canes.
     
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    Caps can have Yakupov for free. Avs won't re-sign him. He's not very good at the hockey.
     
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    Well Barber isn't lighting the world on fire. Maybe a change helps both players.
     
  11. 72hockey guy

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    isles arent trading a first for a goalie period so no need for varly or holtby

    our firsts are off limits
     
  12. Murzu

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    ?????????

    Colorado Islanders?
     
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    It would take more than just the 16thOA for Holtby.
     
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    he's responding to voodoo glow skulls who said this:

    As a side deal, Varlamov would be a good add to several teams. Looking at the Islanders, Canes.
     
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    someone did mention pawning off varly to the isles did they not or cant you read?

    the islanders are not any teams private landfill

    we have our own needs and wasting capspace we need to sign tavares is not one of them
     
  16. Murzu

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    Yes. But no one touched that and it's not what the thread is about. 1st rounder from Isles or anything regarding value wasn't talked.
     
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    The deal was between the Capitals and the Avalanche.

    Are you in the wrong thread?

    If you are referring to the idea of Varlamov to the Islanders, I never said anything about the Isles trading a 1st. I just suggested that the Isles and Canes would be good trade partners.
     
  18. 72hockey guy

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    you are assuming that, but its not true for cap reasons if we traded for varlamov its just more difficult to sign tavares

    trade varly for holtby dont expect us to help you....we wont
     
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    maybe the canes would trade for Varly, they'll give you Darling, you like to assume fans of other teams are taking your trash
     
  20. Voodoo Glow Skulls

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    Alright man.

    So you don't want Varlamov.

    Just say that.

    No need to get offensive.
     
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    Yeah, the 1st alone isn't going to be enough.
    Basically what the Capitals need are high-quality futures, either Forwards (preferably Centers) or High picks. Holtby's value is substantially higher than a Playoff Team 1st and the Caps don't need low-end depth prospects.
     
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    Absolutely. Also Yakupov for Barber is also a NO (though both appear mostly insignificant)
     
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    Nope.

    Possibly. But based on the responses in this thread you aren't going to like the price for either. Samsonov was drafted 22nd overall and his value has skyrocketed as he appears poised to come to NA. I'm not sure what it would take to trade him for the Caps but the Varlamov return wouldn't be enough this time around.
     
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    Yeah, I don't see either being a very likely possibility. Or that we'd even target them to begin with, Washington has no reason to move either one.
     
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    as an Avs fan, I think a 16th overall for Holtby is a robbery. Maclellan should be fired right after.
     

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