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Sorry, if you lose to Nate Diaz, and have 1 win in 2 years, I can't pick you.
Jon jones has more title fights and wins during Conor's "reign".
Once again, it's absolutely ridiculous to have women on the same P4P list as men
A vote for Cris Cyborg means you think she would beat the likes of Max Holloway, Jose Aldo and Frankie Edgar
I suggest starting a 3rd thread
And Jones also has more positive USADA tests too...
what
1. Demetrious Johnson
I don't see how giving Joanna a Y chromosome with which to fight Woodley is any more absurd than doubling DJ's size so that he can fight Cain. "Pound-for-pound" = look at their skills and ignore the biological facts.To cast a vote for Joanna Jedrzejczyk, you are saying she would beat every male fighter in the poll if you scaled them all down to 115 lbs
From Brett Okamoto's MMA chat over at ESPN
Question:
Not feeling this Brett: I rank her in a women's P4P list. I don't know why the two would be combined. The idea of not having her number one right now on any list is foolish! The whole p4p is a hypothetical. If it was real Cain destroys the field.
Brett Okamoto (1:55 PM)
Brett's answer:
This conversation really doesn't matter because at the end of the day, it all comes down to how you view a P4P. Yes, it's hypothetical, but I've heard some people say, 'well, you base it off how dominant a fighter is in his/her weight class.' To me, that doesn't make sense. Because then a fighter in a crap weight class benefits more than a fighter who is taking on elite talent in every fight. To me, P4P is P4P. If you rank the women and men together, and you rank Ronda No. 1 as you say you would, you are saying that Ronda, at 135 pounds, would beat TJ Dillashaw. She would also beat Dominick Cruz, Urijah Faber, Renan Barao, etc. etc. I don't believe that. I believe men and women are scientifically, physically different and I don't understand why I would rank them on the same P4P list regarding cage fighting. It seems stupid to me. Again though, none of that matters because no one knows for sure what the official parameters of a P4P list are. It's a never-ending debate. That's my take though.
I disagree with Brett Okamoto and will give a sarcastic answer because there's no reason to argue itPound for pound
It's the same as saying "Pound = Pound"
Joanna, depending on how they got to that weightIf all fighters were the same weight, which one would be the betting favorite?
Pound for pound
It's the same as saying "Pound = Pound"
If all fighters were the same weight, which one would be the betting favorite?
You keep adding fighters that have no business being in this discussion. Edgar, Dillashaw and Thompson do not deserve to be on this list, especially over some of the fighters you're leaving off.
For me it's
Cormier
Woodley
McGregor
Miocic
Holloway
Garbrandt
Bisping
(Females are in a different, don't see how I can rank them in the same list).
I would have voted for Cormier as the #1 easily. Think about it, if Jones never enters the UFC we're probably looking at a Cormier as the greatest UFC fighter ever. I know it's tough to just forget his 2 fights vs Jones, but Jones was on gear so you can't count them.
Where is DJ?