Has Quebec City been priced out of the NHL?

[CHRDANHUTCH]

I never brought up Florida i was talking about the coyotes.

same evidence can be applied to Arizona as Florida, tommy

 

[gstommylee]

same evidence can be applied to Arizona as Florida, tommy

And if NHL actually wanted 15/17 alignment they would have gave Quebec expansion team and relocated coyotes to Seattle. They don't. They want a balance an a balanced alignment league so they aren't going to move coyotes out east at all.

 

[edog37]

And if NHL actually wanted 15/17 alignment they would have gave Quebec expansion team and relocated coyotes to Seattle. They don't. They want a balance an a balanced alignment league so they aren't going to move coyotes out east at all.

They’ll move them to Houston long before Quebec

 

[Bookie21]

Quebec couldn't afford the Coyotes. Indemnification fees to the Habs would be astronomical. Going off the relocation fees the Jets paid, if the Coyotes went for $400 million USD ($525 MIL CAD), the relocation fee would be $220 million USD ($290 mil CAD) Not feasible

 

[Mightygoose]

True North paid 60 million for the relocation fee and that number was based on 170 million that was agreed upon originally for the Coyotes less 110 million ASG wanted for the Thrashers.

If the Coyotes did move to Quebec...or Houston for that matter, the relocation fee will be agreed upon based on the situation which could be zero.

Luckily for Quebecor or Fertitta for that matter, the Coyotes actual value is nowhere near 400 million.

 

[mouser]

Quebec couldn't afford the Coyotes. Indemnification fees to the Habs would be astronomical. Going off the relocation fees the Jets paid, if the Coyotes went for $400 million USD ($525 MIL CAD), the relocation fee would be $220 million USD ($290 mil CAD) Not feasible

The Habs wouldn't get any territorial fees. Montreal and Quebec City are sufficiently far enough apart to not result in any territorial rights overlap.

 

[Bixby Snyder]

My only hope is for the Winnipeg Jets to win it all in these playoffs. It would show the NHL and all those high profile players that a ''small Canadian market'' doesn't need much to be a successful and winning franchise.

It just needs for most of the team to be made up of American players.

 

[LeHab]

Quebec couldn't afford the Coyotes. Indemnification fees to the Habs would be astronomical. Going off the relocation fees the Jets paid, if the Coyotes went for $400 million USD ($525 MIL CAD), the relocation fee would be $220 million USD ($290 mil CAD) Not feasible

Molson reportedly stated he would not seek any extra fees other than his share of what the whole league will get of a reloc/comp fee.



Coyotes value may be low but that is because the new owner will also assume all liabilities. Cost of the team, paying off debt, breaking contracts + possible reloc fee will make the whole deal likely more expensive than a new franchise.

 

[powerstuck]

Molson reportedly stated he would not seek any extra fees other than his share of what the whole league will get of a reloc/comp fee.



Coyotes value may be low but that is because the new owner will also assume all liabilities. Cost of the team, paying off debt, breaking contracts + possible reloc fee will make the whole deal likely more expensive than a new franchise.

To further add to this, Molson also stated that since Quebec isn't in the 50 miles/50 kilometers radius, they are not eligible for any further indemnity.

 

[Ernie]

True North paid 60 million for the relocation fee and that number was based on 170 million that was agreed upon originally for the Coyotes less 110 million ASG wanted for the Thrashers.

If the Coyotes did move to Quebec...or Houston for that matter, the relocation fee will be agreed upon based on the situation which could be zero.

Luckily for Quebecor or Fertitta for that matter, the Coyotes actual value is nowhere near 400 million.

The Coyotes, as a business operation, are likely worth less then zero.

But I expect Bettman to ensure that Barroway is made whole regardless of what happens. Bettman's power derives from making sure that those who do the NHL's will are taken care of. How much has Barroway put in now? Likely in the $100m ballpark.

There's also the matter of the considerable debt that the Coyotes franchise has, some of it being held by the NHL.

Between those two things I expect the price tag to be artificially set at around $400m, possibly higher.

 

[sawchuk1971]

put a fork in quebec in getting the nhl back...

saw a thread that bettman wrote an email on december 18, 2017 to mark charest which he said..

"At this point, the NHL does not consider Quebec City to be a franchise expansion or relocation. Sincerely, Gary B. Bettman."

read this at this «Sincerely» – Gary B. Bettman

its in french....you can use the google language translation on google..

 

[gstommylee]

put a fork in quebec in getting the nhl back...

saw a thread that bettman wrote an email on december 18, 2017 to mark charest which he said..



read this at this «Sincerely» – Gary B. Bettman

its in french....you can use the google language translation on google..

You actually think Bettman is going to say that Quebec is a relocation candidate when no team's are going to be relocated?

No team is relocating and the only expansion candidate they are looking at is Seattle. That comment means nothing.

 

[Blue Warriors]

put a fork in quebec in getting the nhl back...

saw a thread that bettman wrote an email on december 18, 2017 to mark charest which he said..



read this at this «Sincerely» – Gary B. Bettman

its in french....you can use the google language translation on google..

Key words are « at this point ».

 

[Bookie21]

Not too sure what is really newsworthy here. Bettman would never talk about relocation, that is not good business. As for expansion, he said they were deferred 3 years ago, and nothing has changed in that regard. Especially with Seattle applying, it'll just push Quebec further down the food chain

 

[Mightygoose]

Agreed with many saying it's not really news worthy. Just by looking at the date being December 18, 2017...just a week or so after the December BOG meeting where they opened up the Seattle only expansion process.

Replace Quebec City with another place not nammed Seattle and we get the same message.

 

[Hal1971]

#NHLBruins owner Jeremy Jacobs made it clear that due to market (income, TV) he doesn’t see a NHL team in Quebec City anytime soon. Cited Houston maybe being the next after Seattle.

Pas de retour de la LNH à Québec de sitôt, selon le propriétaire des Bruins

 

[New User Name]

If I'm not mistaken QC were willing to pay the same as Vegas did and Gary said it was deferred. (he was laughing his little ass off though.)

I said it before, QC will never get a team. Sorry Quebec folks you built a white elephant thinking you were dealing with reputable, ethical and decent people.

Canadian born players don't want to play in Canada, why add another Canadian team?

Winnipeg only got their team back because Gary had no other option.

The league is interested in only growing the game in the good old US of A, so more American kids take up the game and eventually become the majority of the players.

I'd love to see a team in QC, nothing matched the rivalry of Montreal/Quebec City.

But it ain't happening.

 

[Killion]

#NHLBruins owner Jeremy Jacobs made it clear that due to market (income, TV) he doesn’t see a NHL team in Quebec City anytime soon. Cited Houston maybe being the next after Seattle.

Pas de retour de la LNH à Québec de sitôt, selon le propriétaire des Bruins

You know, the mind absolutely reels at the stupidity of Jeremy Jacobs. Comment after comment, statement after statement, move after move, beyond stupidity. Dyslexic. Blind. Deaf. Dumb. And he's the Chairman of the BOG's. Complete & utter Moron.

 

[gstommylee]

If I'm not mistaken QC were willing to pay the same as Vegas did and Gary said it was deferred. (he was laughing his little ass off though.)

I said it before, QC will never get a team. Sorry Quebec folks you built a white elephant thinking you were dealing with reputable, ethical and decent people.

Canadian born players don't want to play in Canada, why add another Canadian team?

Winnipeg only got their team back because Gary had no other option.

The league is interested in only growing the game in the good old US of A, so more American kids take up the game and eventually become the majority of the players.

I'd love to see a team in QC, nothing matched the rivalry of Montreal/Quebec City.

But it ain't happening.

Oh i think QC will get a team but under the right conditional aka eastern conference team relocation only. Right now there is no team in the eastern conference that requires the league to relocate them.

If a Western team has to be relocated it's not going to end up in Quebec but well houston.

 

[New User Name]

Oh i think QC will get a team but under the right conditional aka eastern conference team relocation only. Right now there is no team in the eastern conference that requires the league to relocate them.

If a Western team has to be relocated it's not going to end up in Quebec but well houston.

There's no eastern team that's up for relocation. I guarantee you if that ever happened, the league would look for any place in the US to put that team and not even consider QC.
and they would find a city, but not QC

 

[Roadrage]

I think the Videotron Centre will be labeled obsolete by the NHL before it's decided to have expansion go ahead into QC.

 

[gstommylee]

There's no eastern team that's up for relocation. I guarantee you if that ever happened, the league would look for any place in the US to put that team and not even consider QC.
and they would find a city, but not QC

One issue they aren't going to do a 17/15 alignment. And i don't really see any other eastern locations. I still don't see there being another TOR 2 team.

 

[Bixby Snyder]

For 2 straight years, Canadian teams fail to sell out in the playoffs, I think we've reached a saturation point for the hockey in Canada.

 

[New User Name]

You know, the mind absolutely reels at the stupidity of Jeremy Jacobs. Comment after comment, statement after statement, move after move, beyond stupidity. Dyslexic. Blind. Deaf. Dumb. And he's the Chairman of the BOG's. Complete & utter Moron.

Actually he's not.

Jacobs first love is money. He knows the league needs to get a lucrative TV contract. He also knows hockey is not that popular in the US. He knows Americans identify more with fellow Americans than a bunch of foreigners. To make hockey more popular you need more Americans playing the game. More US teams, more $$ from the league to sponsor kids hockey=potential more NHL American players.

and its working.

 

[New User Name]

For 2 straight years, Canadian teams fail to sell out in the playoffs, I think we've reached a saturation point for the hockey in Canada.

The Jets have sold out, contrary to the fake news by an idiot in the Toronto media.