Has a Stanley Cup winner ever moved ?

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  1. byeyimini

    byeyimini Registered User

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    Has a team that has won the Stanley cup in its history ever moved to a new city ? I don't think its happened.
     
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    Sure have, but you got to go back a long way. The Ottawa Senators won a few cups with the last being in 1927. A few years later they moved to St. Louis only to fold the next season.

    It has yet, if ever, to happen in the modern era.
     
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    Good stuff, thanks Hexrae !
     
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    FYI, the only Stanley Cup finalist to be moved since that time, 1927, is the Minnesota North Stars. :teach: lol

    Either way, both cities have teams again.
     
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    I cant see in these times a Cup winner being moved.
     
  6. byeyimini

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    ...a Stanley Cup finalist ! You've just provided me with my next (and 1 notch more difficult) trivia question. Awesome !!
     
  7. hexrae

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    True, makes me wish Winnipeg won at some point...oh well :cry:


    You may need to clarify further since non-NHL teams were able to compete for the Cup prior to 1926.
     
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    There have been a few close calls though:

    - Edmonton, and to a lesser extent Calgary, came close in the 90's
    - Pittsburgh has had a few close calls in the past, I'd argue they're not totally out of the woods yet
    - St Louis (cup finalist) was almost relocated to Saskatoon in the 80's

    I have a hypothetical question. What would happen to the Stanley Cup banners, etc if a team were to relocate? For example, let's say the Detroit Red Wings were to move to Las Vegas and become the Aces (I'll pick the most least likely scenario as too avoid a flame war, which could easily happen if teams like Pittsburgh or Edmonton are mentioned). On opening night of the Las Vegas Aces, would they raise the Stanley Cup banners of the former team, or would the banners stay back in Detroit? Or would that depend on whether they would keep the team name (ie Las Vegas Aces vs. Las Vegas Red Wings).

    The teams that were relocated in the modern era don't have a proud playoff history to celebrate, so that has never been an issue.
     
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    Does Dallas hang any Minnesota North Stars Division/Conference banners from the stands? What about numbers of retired players' numbers? Or do the Wild have that stuff? Or is it erased off the face of the earth? ;)
     
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    Devils were close after '95.
     
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    Another close call was New Jersey in the mid 90's. My memory on this is fuzzy, but I want to say that they were considering moving, used Nashville to get some kind of leverage for arena renovations, won the cup, the Devils fans had a rally at their arena (towards the bottom of the link), the Devils stayed in NJ and the city of nashville was given expanasion consideration for their trouble, which eventually became the Predators.
     
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    For retired jerseys, I believe this is decided on a team by team basis. IIRC, Phoenix kept Bobby Hull's jersey retired, but Carolina unretired all the Whalers' jerseys when they moved. Not sure about the divisional or conference championship banners though.
     
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    We are out of the woods...

    Basille will be owner by the end of all of this, the land is already bought. All we are waiting on is the Isle of Capri getting the casino, or "Plan B" to take effect. When we know more here in December, we'll know that the Pens will have a new home, a new owner, and more money to be competitive.
     
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    We are not out of the woods at all.

    Things look good, but nothing is set in stone yet. The Pens could still move if things fall apart at the end, especially with Plan "B".
     
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    The Montreal Maroons won the cup in 1925-26 and 1934-35 but ceased operations after the 1937-38 season due to the effects of the Great Depression. I guess this doesn't technically count since they didn't move anywhere, but I just thought i'd mention it...
     
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    Dallas does not hang the banners earned by the North Stars. Their first banners for team play start in 1993.

    They do, however, honor the three retired numbers of the North Stars. Those three (Goldsworthy, Masterson and Broten) hang on a banner in the AAC.
     
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    Yes the Pens will be a highly competitive team, the Waterloo Penguins will be one of the brightest franchises in the NHL.

    Though maybe it will be the Kitchener-Waterloo Penguins. I very much doubt Bassilie bought the team in order to keep it in a 45 year old arena in a market that doesn't have much in the way of economic growth to fill a 20,000 person arena.
     
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    I firmly believe that the Devils Stanley Cup in '95 kept them in the city. They were all but packed for Cincinnati, to hear some of their employees at the time tell it.
     
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    Way to make yourself look like an idiot. Next time you might want to consider making sure what you are saying is true. For starters you might want to look at Balsillie's own words. Waterloo Penguins... give it up already! The odds are better that the Sens will have a playoffs where they don't fold and they actually win the cup! The bus to fantasy land must be departing soon... :biglaugh:
     
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    Good, no more relocation threads for Tampa Bay, Carolina or Pittsburgh.
     
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    It was Nashville. You are right though it kept them in NJ as it pretty much made the state renovate CAA (then Brendan Bryne Arena, which the state owns) and improve the Devils lease in fear of the embarisment of losing the Stanley Cup Champions.
     
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    The Victoria Cougars of the Pacific Coast League (back in the 1910s and 1920s when the winners of the PCL and the NHL met to contest the Stanley Cup Final) made the final in 1926, losing to the Montreal Canadiens.

    Over that summer, the PCL was bought out and the Cougars moved to Detroit to become the Detroit Cougars (later eventually renamed the Red Wings). The Cougars also won the Cup in 1925.
     
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    Doesn't Ottawa have banners hanging of the original Senators cup wins? I think its great for history reasons, but once or twice a silly Sens fan has tried to pass those cups off as their own.

    anyway, a Pens relocation scares me.
     
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    Did the Avs not keep the Nordiques' retired numbers? I'm thinking of guys like Goulet and Peter Stasney.

    Edit: Nevermind, obviously if Paul is wearing #26 this year, it wasn't retired. Kind of disrespectful, in my opinion. Colorado owes its cups to a couple of original Nordiques (Sakic and Forsberg), the least they could do is honour the tradition
     
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    That's correct, when the Nordiques moved to Denver, none of the retired numbers were broght over. So basically, what the Avs organisation did was not recognise Peter Stastny and Michel Goulet's years of contribution, but they did put Ray Bourque's 1+ year on a pedastal

    That is pathetic
     

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