Hall. Maybe a bit biased but he does more or about the same as any of these guys with less.
Love Hall and it's impressive how he carried the Devils this year, but defensively he is not 1/10th of what Marchand is. Offensively, Marchand has the edge too.Hall. Maybe a bit biased but he does more or about the same as any of these guys with less.
Marchand is not better than Hall offensively... it isnt even close.Love Hall and it's impressive how he carried the Devils this year, but defensively he is not 1/10th of what Marchand is. Offensively, Marchand has the edge too.
Marchand is not better than Hall offensively... it isnt even close.
Hall was putting up 80 points with nobody while Marchand was a 4th liner and even now Hall is close in points while Marchand plays with Bergeron and Pastrnak
While Marchand was a 4th liner, in 2009-10, Hall wasn't even in the NHL. But last I checked, it's 2018, not 2009.
73 points in 56 games is MUCH better than 77 points in 67 games...
I would like to see Hall play a 200 ft game and see if he can still do what he does these days.Not if your playing with Godgeron And Pasternak. No one on the Devils is even playing the same sport. Bergerons a beast but I don’t believe he could do what Hall is doing on the Devils.
‘Literally nothing’While Marchand was a 4th liner, in 2009-10, Hall wasn't even in the NHL. But last I checked, it's 2018, not 2009.
73 points in 56 games is MUCH better than 77 points in 67 games... And if you are interested in the past season - which is still better than going back 9 seasons or so - 85 points in 80 games is light years ahead of 53 points in 72 games... (As I am typing this, Marchand just scored, by the way)...
And +31 (+32 as of right now) is better than +9... It's actually third best in the whole league...
And then the defensive aspect... Let's not go there, it's not a good comparison between Hall and Marchand there... Hall isn't exactly a 200 ft player, is he?
Just a couple of things there: Marchand plays roughly 2 minutes of PK per game... Hall: 6... seconds.
FFS, Hall even gets over 1 and half minutes more than Marchand at 5vs5...
Lastly, a bit of trivia... Marchand is already in the top 50 in short handed goals ALL TIME. I think he is pretty good on the PK...
There's literally nothing that Hall has over Marchand as of now. Nothing. Marchand is the superior player.
UPDATE: Marchand with an assist as well. 75 points in almost 57 games.
I would like to see Hall play a 200 ft game and see if he can still do what he does these days.
Compared to Marchand: same PP time... Zero PK vs 2 minutes (Marchand)... Over 16 minutes at 5vs5 compared to 14 1/2 (Marchand)
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Continue thinking Marchand is better offensively, Hall will keep his higher points in less games lol.
I think Hall will develop a strong 2-way game in time over the next couple years as has situation improved. Playing with dumpster teams doesn’t exactly help with that quite the way playing with a top 2-way team for a decade does.
Right now he is doing all he can to carry the Devils in a way I don’t think any other player in the poll could and for the reason he is the best of the bunch.
So one season where Marchand’s most common linemates are Bergeron and Pastrnak and Hall’s are Hischier and Bratt/Palmieri, but lets ignore Hall having more points in less games over their careers, pushes 5v5 play much more, and is clearly the better offensive player with less help.[mod]
Marchand has now 75 points in 56 games and 2 periods. Hall has 77 in 67 games. I would gladly see how you explain 67 games being less than 56. I think it's mission impossible...
Who is "we"?So one season where Marchand’s most common linemates are Bergeron and Pastrnak and Hall’s are Hischier and Bratt/Palmieri, but lets ignore Hall having more points in less games over their careers, pushes 5v5 play much more, and is clearly the better offensive player with less help.
You like the Bruins, we get it
A vote as to who is better isnt a vote for who is more offensive, which you said Marchand is better at than Hall. Which simply isn’t true.Who is "we"?
The "we" up here are voting for Marchand 2 1/2 times more than Hall. That's the only "we" in here.
As it is this year (and as it already was last year), Marchand is superior to Hall in every facet of the game.
And he is better in every facet of the game while playing a top-notch level 200 ft game. And he is better in every facet of the game while playing 2 minutes of PK a night (vs none for Hall) and while playing a minute and a half less at 5vs5 than Hall.
Heck, you can even go back and discover that Marchand has been producing at a steady 1.30 ppg for close to the past ONE HUNDRED GAMES he played.
Like I already said, there's literally nothing that Hall is superior to Marchand. Prove me wrong.