Habs fans reaction in case of Nordiques return.

[Kimota]

Thank you Don!

I'm shocked there hasn't been any discussions of this.

 

[LeHab]

Thank you Don!

I'm shocked there hasn't been any discussions of this.

There has been including articles in the news.

 

[Scintillating10]

Nobody wants to live in Quebec city, nobody will want to be drafted there, no free agents will sign there, the whole thing is just stupid, be happy you have the Ramparts, you wanna cheer for an NHL teams then cheer for the stupid Habs like the rest of us.

In early 90s, they filled Le Coliseum 14,800 average with pathetic team. No doubt fans will support a team. But so much political uncertainty comes out of there, plus a small tv market, then our dollar is always up and down. Several small reasons why NHL is dragging its feet on returning to Quebec.

 

[Cobra Commander]

In early 90s, they filled Le Coliseum 14,800 average with pathetic team. No doubt fans will support a team. But so much political uncertainty comes out of there, plus a small tv market, then our dollar is always up and down. Several small reasons why NHL is dragging its feet on returning to Quebec.

Fans would support it no question, but it would be a very undesirable destination for players to land.

 

[QuebecPride]

Nobody wants to live in Quebec city, nobody will want to be drafted there, no free agents will sign there, the whole thing is just stupid, be happy you have the Ramparts, you wanna cheer for an NHL teams then cheer for the stupid Habs like the rest of us.

Obviously you dislike Québec, but know that economically, it might be the most booming city in the country.

In early 90s, they filled Le Coliseum 14,800 average with pathetic team. No doubt fans will support a team. But so much political uncertainty comes out of there, plus a small tv market, then our dollar is always up and down. Several small reasons why NHL is dragging its feet on returning to Quebec.

How is Québec more uncertain politically than Montréal?

The size/currency arguments are also valid for Winnipeg.

I personally see two 'main' reasons why Québec is not back yet.

The first is that the conferences are uneven. Bettman wants to solve that first with Seattle.

The second is more murky, but was first mentioned by lesaffaires a few months ago, and it's that other Canadian owners don't want Péladeau at the owners table, because of his political views.

Québec is also convenient for him as a threat for owners who are not cooperative.

 

[QuebecPride]

and how do you think both teams tried to attract the most fans ? ?

The habs have been mediocre since the departure of the Nordiques. Besides, the strategy of attracting fans by getting local players has never prevented the Habs from winning when the Nords were in Québec.

 

[Cobra Commander]

Obviously you dislike Québec, but know that economically, it might be the most booming city in the country.

Many players will not want to live in Quebec city because it is 100% French, Montreal is a different animal, it's a world class city and you can get by without knowing barely any French.

 

[CHwest]

Gawd I remember when they were in the league, they and the Habs were always trying to out french each other. No thanks.

 

[lo striver]

Many players will not want to live in Quebec city because it is 100% French, Montreal is a different animal, it's a world class city and you can get by without knowing barely any French.

they can always sign French and Haitian players

 

[JianYang]

Obviously you dislike Québec, but know that economically, it might be the most booming city in the country.



How is Québec more uncertain politically than Montréal?

The size/currency arguments are also valid for Winnipeg.

I personally see two 'main' reasons why Québec is not back yet.

The first is that the conferences are uneven. Bettman wants to solve that first with Seattle.

The second is more murky, but was first mentioned by lesaffaires a few months ago, and it's that other Canadian owners don't want Péladeau at the owners table, because of his political views.

Québec is also convenient for him as a threat for owners who are not cooperative.

The biggest reason QC is not in is because there are simply bigger markets available for expansion/relocation.

Cities like Seattle automatically move to the front of the line when they are interested. Houston would be right there too, and I imagine KC would also be more enticing to the NHL.

QC has to wait for a perfect storm where there is a team in despair, and and none of the larger markets are tangibly interested at the moment. Case in point, Atlanta moving to Winnipeg. To this day, I still cant believe how everything just fell in place for that to happen.

 

[groovejuice]

The biggest reason QC is not in is because there are simply bigger markets available for expansion/relocation.

Cities like Seattle automatically move to the front of the line when they are interested. Houston would be right there too, and I imagine KC would also be more enticing to the NHL.

QC has to wait for a perfect storm where there is a team in despair, and and none of the larger markets are tangibly interested at the moment. Case in point, Atlanta moving to Winnipeg. To this day, I still cant believe how everything just fell in place for that to happen.

Cheers to Atlanta for giving Canada 2 pretty damn good NHL teams!

 

[Scintillating10]

Obviously you dislike Québec, but know that economically, it might be the most booming city in the country.



How is Québec more uncertain politically than Montréal?

The size/currency arguments are also valid for Winnipeg.

I personally see two 'main' reasons why Québec is not back yet.

The first is that the conferences are uneven. Bettman wants to solve that first with Seattle.

The second is more murky, but was first mentioned by lesaffaires a few months ago, and it's that other Canadian owners don't want Péladeau at the owners table, because of his political views.

Québec is also convenient for him as a threat for owners who are not cooperative.

Montreal is a way bigger market. It can take a dramatic drop in our dollar and economical downturn associated with a separatist movement.

 

[Burke the Legend]

The second is more murky, but was first mentioned by lesaffaires a few months ago, and it's that other Canadian owners don't want Péladeau at the owners table, because of his political views.

Is this a surprise? The guy who is a political leader of a movement to break up the country is unpopular with people who like the country.

 

[pepperMonkey]

The biggest reason QC is not in is because there are simply bigger markets available for expansion/relocation.

Cities like Seattle automatically move to the front of the line when they are interested. Houston would be right there too, and I imagine KC would also be more enticing to the NHL.

QC has to wait for a perfect storm where there is a team in despair, and and none of the larger markets are tangibly interested at the moment. Case in point, Atlanta moving to Winnipeg. To this day, I still cant believe how everything just fell in place for that to happen.

Size of the city and size of the market are two totally different concepts.

 

[QuebecPride]

Many players will not want to live in Quebec city because it is 100% French, Montreal is a different animal, it's a world class city and you can get by without knowing barely any French.

Again, you show that you don't know anything about Québec (the province nor the city). They have English elementary, high schools and a Cégep in Québec.

Additionally, stats canada has found that 44.5% of Québécois are bilingual. Recensement en bref: Un nouveau sommet pour le bilinguisme français-anglais

I suggest you visit the city for yourself and judge how good people there are in English. I don't think you'll have any problem to order food, go in shops or chat with your favorite barista in a café in shakespeare's language. Same in my hometown of Sherbrooke or pretty much anywhere in the province. Québec as a whole is by far the most bilingual province in the country. Stop with your non-sense.

 

[QuebecPride]

Is this a surprise? The guy who is a political leader of a movement to break up the country is unpopular with people who like the country.

I don't think it's a surprise that some would be against him because of his political views. I'm just saying that very few people mention it as a reason why Québec doesn't have a team.

 

[QuebecPride]

Size of the city and size of the market are two totally different concepts.

True. I also think though that Bettman (rightfully so), sees potential growth in the US while one could argue that Québec fans are already won over.

 

[Cobra Commander]

Again, you show that you don't know anything about Québec (the province nor the city). They have English elementary, high schools and a Cégep in Québec.

Additionally, stats canada has found that 44.5% of Québécois are bilingual. Recensement en bref: Un nouveau sommet pour le bilinguisme français-anglais

I suggest you visit the city for yourself and judge how good people there are in English. I don't think you'll have any problem to order food, go in shops or chat with your favorite barista in a café in shakespeare's language. Same in my hometown of Sherbrooke or pretty much anywhere in the province. Québec as a whole is by far the most bilingual province in the country. Stop with your non-sense.

I am 37, perfectly bi-lingual (hey le gros ca vas?, pas pire pis toi big?) and from Montreal, i know all about Quebec. I'm not speaking nonsense, most players will not want to live and start a familly in Quebec city, it's a French city and yes it's a beautiful place.

I don't know why you are trying to make this something it's not. Quebec city never has and never will be a desired landing spot for hockey players and the main reasons being language and taxes.

 

[JianYang]

Size of the city and size of the market are two totally different concepts.

When the NHL has the option, they will take a small peice of a large pie over a large peice of a small pie.

 

[QuebecPride]

I am 37, perfectly bi-lingual (hey le gros ca vas?, pas pire pis toi big?) and from Montreal, i know all about Quebec. I'm not speaking nonsense, most players will not want to live and start a familly in Quebec city, it's a French city and yes it's a beautiful place.

I don't know why you are trying to make this something it's not. Quebec city never has and never will be a desired landing spot for hockey players and the main reasons being language and taxes.

Who besides Lindros refused to go play in Québec? Lindros refused to go there because of what Aubut did to his mother, by the way.

 

[jj cale]

I want them desperately back just to hate them again, there won't be any build up time either.

I am 47 and went through all the battles with them and the minute it gets announced they are coming back I will be in 100% despise mode. The hate is already deep within my soul with those guys.

Hell, they don't even have a team yet and I hate their guts already.

Will be great to have them back, can't wait to stomp on them.

 

[Cobra Commander]

Who besides Lindros refused to go play in Québec? Lindros refused to go there because of what Aubut did to his mother, by the way.

Ok man, look, many of us will agree that it's an undesirable location to be drafted to or as a UFA to sign, if you don't wanna believe it then fine but there is something to it and many of us Quebequers understand it, we're not making it up out of nothing. If you wanna turn a blind eye and come up with statistics and articles that's your right. I'm done talking about it with you, your bias is too prevalent and that is clear by your user name, you have lots of Quebec pride and that is great but the homer glasses need to come off before you can look in from the outside and get a different view of things.

 

[Harpo]

Who besides Lindros refused to go play in Québec? Lindros refused to go there because of what Aubut did to his mother, by the way.

Dean Talafous. He retired instead, when he was traded to Quebec.

I'm from and in Quebec City, and am ashamed of a couple of things about my city, but as a player, I'd rather play here than in Winnipeg or Buffalo. It certainly wouldn't be a destination of choice for UFAs, and would be on a lot of NTC, but it wouldn't be worse than many teams in the league. My guess is that in general, Europeans would rather play here than in Carolina or Columbus.

By the way I hated the Nordiques and would still hate them, but they were one of the things that prevented the Habs from being mediocre for too long.

 

[ECWHSWI]

Dean Talafous. He retired instead, when he was traded to Quebec.

I'm from and in Quebec City, and am ashamed of a couple of things about my city, but as a player, I'd rather play here than in Winnipeg or Buffalo. It certainly wouldn't be a destination of choice for UFAs, and would be on a lot of NTC, but it wouldn't be worse than many teams in the league. My guess is that in general, Europeans would rather play here than in Carolina or Columbus.

By the way I hated the Nordiques and would still hate them, but they were one of the things that prevented the Habs from being mediocre for too long.

played for us based teams his whole career.

 

[QuebecPride]

Ok man, look, many of us will agree that it's an undesirable location to be drafted to or as a UFA to sign, if you don't wanna believe it then fine but there is something to it and many of us Quebequers understand it, we're not making it up out of nothing. If you wanna turn a blind eye and come up with statistics and articles that's your right. I'm done talking about it with you, your bias is too prevalent and that is clear by your user name, you have lots of Quebec pride and that is great but the homer glasses need to come off before you can look in from the outside and get a different view of things.

You have a bias against Québec, I have a bias for Québec. The way you depict it Québec would be the worst market in the NHL. There are worse destinations for NHL players, namely Winnipeg, Buffalo, Ottawa and Edmonton (yes, despite McDavid). My user name has nothing to do avec la Ville de Québec, but the province.