Habs fans reaction in case of Nordiques return.

JianYang

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I imagine that spirit of Manitoba thingy back in '96 was a factor to Bettman for Jets come back. Showed tremendous passion for hockey.

I don't think the league reacts on emotions. It was just the best option available. At the time, there didn't appear to be much appetite from other American markets to take a team on.
 
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I don't think the league reacts on emotions. It was just the best option available. At the time, there didn't appear to be much appetite from other American markets to take a team on.
Be something if Jets get to Finals. Talk about an electric city. With Vegas enjoying success if QC did get a team they may not be far away from a Winnipeg type return. If they will support them to that level?
 

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Be something if Jets get to Finals. Talk about an electric city. With Vegas enjoying success if QC did get a team they may not be far away from a Winnipeg type return. If they will support them to that level?

They have to wait for the perfect storm, like Winnipeg did, which is no real competition from other American cities, and a team in peril that has no choice but to move.

There's no guarantee that this will happen anytime soon, or at all.
 

Burke the Legend

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Said 1 billion. Said the city has been electric this playoff year. Lots of partying, etc... going on. This city has never won anything before

I imagine it will be something there for Game 6?

This is fake economics. People have limited discretionary monies to spend. A sports team doing well doesn't increase this. It's not creating any new prosperity.
 
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Anybody hear Bruins' owner Jacobs saying Houston is likely next expansion site? After Seattle. Doesn't sound like Quebec city is even in the picture. QC has the arena, 16,000 season ticket sales, and a 750,000 surrounding population base. And they don't get consideration? Doesn't sound like expansion going there in future. Quebecor makes 94 million a year profit with revenue of 10 billion. Former Prime Minister Mulroney is Chairman of the Board. They have the money and will to fund the Nordiques return.
 

MasterDecoy

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Anybody hear Bruins' owner Jacobs saying Houston is likely next expansion site? After Seattle. Doesn't sound like Quebec city is even in the picture. QC has the arena, 16,000 season ticket sales, and a 750,000 surrounding population base. And they don't get consideration? Doesn't sound like expansion going there in future. Quebecor makes 94 million a year profit with revenue of 10 billion. Former Prime Minister Mulroney is Chairman of the Board. They have the money and will to fund the Nordiques return.

Pretty sure his exact quote is that they would **never** come back.

Edit: found the article, Bruins owner Jeremy Jacobs on Quebec NHL market: 'They're challenged' - Sportsnet.ca

He doesn't say never, but he sure shit is implying it.
 

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It would kick the butt of the Habs, they would have to go back to care about winning and supporting local talent. Probably the best thing that could happen to this team.

Or we can you know just care about winning?

"Supporting local talent" what are the habs ? The representation of the population of Quebec? No for gods sakes it's a hockey team . win . Thats it.

I know it will never be about winning and it will always be about profit and appeasing the casual masses. But it's sad it has to be that way
 

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Or we can you know just care about winning?

"Supporting local talent" what are the habs ? The representation of the population of Quebec? No for gods sakes it's a hockey team . win . Thats it.

I know it will never be about winning and it will always be about profit and appeasing the casual masses. But it's sad it has to be that way

This team has never won anyway else than by having a large contingent of locals (were it anglos or francos, but Québécois nonetheless). For the Habs, local talent is their one true distinction and arguably advantage. Playing for the Habs as a Québécois is like playing for Barça for a Catalan or for Celtic as a Scot/Irish. You probably don't know shit about Québec if you think les Canadiens de Montréal don't represent the city, the province and our nation. You might wanna google the definition, and historical meaning of "Canadien". You might be surprised. The fate of the team literally affects the mood of the whole province. That's a very unique situation.
 
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Kimota

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Jacobs is a stupid clown, always was, always will be. He's one of the small group of guys that have run the league for ages with the Count, putting it in horrible southern markets, hoping to get a big US deal and it will never happen. Vegas may succeed but it's a big exception.

Something like the UFC has grown so much cause they go where the interest in their product is the biggest. NHL artificially tries to create markets out of thin air like it's a sci-fi movie. They wonder after that why after an early spike, the interest dies down in places. Because the grass root interest is not there. If you put a team in Quebec, not only you get a healthy market but the surge of hockey players in the Province would be enormous. That's more players for the NHL.
 
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This team has never won anyway else than by having a large contingent of locals (were it anglos or francos, but Québécois nonetheless). For the Habs, local talent is their one true distinction and arguably advantage. Playing for the Habs as a Québécois is like playing for Barça for a Catalan or for Celtic as a Scot/Irish. You probably don't know **** about Québec if you think les Canadiens de Montréal don't represent the city, the province and our nation. You might wanna google the definition, and historical meaning of "Canadien". You might be surprised. The fate of the team literally affects the mood of the whole province. That's a very unique situation.
And yet one can always find examples of "pur laine" players in the NHL who will get their agents to move heaven and earth to ensure that they never have to play for the Habs. Lecavalier avoided this team like the plague. Briere took less money from Philly to avoid Montreal. He only came when he was used up and no other teams wanted him anymore. The only francophones who love playing here are scrubs like Desharnais.
 

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And yet one can always find examples of "pur laine" players in the NHL who will get their agents to move heaven and earth to ensure that they never have to play for the Habs. Lecavalier avoided this team like the plague. Briere took less money from Philly to avoid Montreal. He only came when he was used up and no other teams wanted him anymore. The only francophones who love playing here are scrubs like Desharnais.

The pressure is not for everyone.
 

Lebowski

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Jacobs is a stupid clown, always was, always will be. He's one of the small group of guys that have run the league for ages with the Count, putting it in horrible southern markets, hoping to get a big US deal and it will never happen. Vegas may succeed but it's a big exception.

Something like the UFC has grown so much cause they go where the interest in their product is the biggest. NHL artificially tries to create markets out of thin air like it's a sci-fi movie. They wonder after that why after an early spike, the interest dies down in places. Because the grass root interest is not there. If you put a team in Quebec, not only you get a healthy market but the surge of hockey players in the Province would be enormous. That's more players for the NHL.

If the grass root of interest is already there, why would there be a surge of hockey players?

The argument you're using is part of the very reason the NHL has made the effort to develop unconventional markets.
 

Kimota

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If the grass root of interest is already there, why would there be a surge of hockey players?

The argument you're using is part of the very reason the NHL has made the effort to develop unconventional markets.

Grass root meaning the tradition is there. It would only needed to be feed to rekindle the flame. A lot of Canadian kids do not play hockey anymore for diverse reasons(cost, different life style, etc..). Put a team in Quebec and there would be a legion of kids wanting sign up in that region in particular. It's not brain surgery why there was such a big well of Quebecers wanting to play hockey when the Habs were winning cups. Same thing with all the kids wanting to be goalies upon the success of Patrick Roy. Or the next generation of young men that were inspired by Tiger Woods to play golf and look at all the great young golfers there are nowadays.

Especially in hockey mad places, the buzz can be turned on at the drop of a dime. In non-traditional places, other than the odd fish like Matthews, it's not like there has been a big surge of hockey players in the US. In my opinion there has been literally a generation of potential hockey players coming from Quebec City that the NHL has lost by the departure of the Nords. But Gary wanted the quick bucks, the quick fix, not thinking about the long term effects.
 
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WickedPegJets

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Anybody hear Bruins' owner Jacobs saying Houston is likely next expansion site? After Seattle. Doesn't sound like Quebec city is even in the picture. QC has the arena, 16,000 season ticket sales, and a 750,000 surrounding population base. And they don't get consideration? Doesn't sound like expansion going there in future. Quebecor makes 94 million a year profit with revenue of 10 billion. Former Prime Minister Mulroney is Chairman of the Board. They have the money and will to fund the Nordiques return.
If the Quebec Government really wants the return of Les Nordiques, it will happen. Arizona Coyotes, Carolina Hurricanes and even the Florida Panthers are NHL sisters that ought to be relocated to Quebec, Hamilton and Houston.
 

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If the Quebec Government really wants the return of Les Nordiques, it will happen. Arizona Coyotes, Carolina Hurricanes and even the Florida Panthers are NHL sisters that ought to be relocated to Quebec, Hamilton and Houston.

I don't see how the government has any say in that. The Arena was built and paid by the public already, a private entity will bring in the team, not the province.
 
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ECWHSWI

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Or we can you know just care about winning?

"Supporting local talent" what are the habs ? The representation of the population of Quebec? No for gods sakes it's a hockey team . win . Thats it.

I know it will never be about winning and it will always be about profit and appeasing the casual masses. But it's sad it has to be that way
people should get over this idiotic notion that wanting local assets is wrong and goes against whatever unrealistic idea that people will spend a billion $ or so on a business and not want to get their money back and not make any profit...

there's nothing right or wrong in having preferences in entertainment, wich is what hockey is for any fan, entertainment...
 

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Don't care about the rivalry. Nobody cares about those peasants up there in Quebec anyways.:sarcasm:

However, if it can help the Habs focus on winning and less on politics, I'm all for it.
 
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Cobra Commander

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Nobody wants to live in Quebec city, nobody will want to be drafted there, no free agents will sign there, the whole thing is just stupid, be happy you have the Ramparts, you wanna cheer for an NHL teams then cheer for the stupid Habs like the rest of us.
 
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ECWHSWI

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Don't care about the rivalry. Nobody cares about those peasants up there in Quebec anyways.:sarcasm:

However, if it can help the Habs focus on winning and less on politics, I'm all for it.
and how do you think both teams tried to attract the most fans ? ?
 

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