Gostisbehere

[bambamcam4ever]

While Provorov had a great series, Gostisbehere was one of the biggest reasons the Flyers lost. I had heard Flyers fans say he's become great in his own end, but that clearly wasn't evident this series, whether he was getting worked in the corners or failing to pick up a guy around the net.

In 10 games against the Penguins this season, he managed to end up with a -14, which is almost hard to believe.

I would get excited every time I saw him on the ice 5v5, and I think the Penguins players did too. One of their most vanilla forwards, Riley Sheahan, was looking like Malkin every time Ghost was on him and trying moves I've never seen him pull.

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[Critical13]

He's a train wreck without the puck. I can't think of many with such a talent discrepancy from offence to defence. Shades of early Karlsson.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

yeah he's brutal in his own end. he also didn't look that great offensively a lot of the time in that series

 

[LeafFever]

And yet everytime there's a listing of the top D, I see his name.

 

[Sasso09]

And yet everytime there's a listing of the top D, I see his name.

For great reason.

Maybe one day Morgan will reach that status.

 

[rent free]

He's always been bad defensively. The playoffs are where he shines at it.

 

[GirouxCouturier]

He’s going to be hated for his series for sure, still a great player, rough series. Hopefully in the future he can perform when it matters

 

[LeafFever]

For great reason.

Maybe one day Morgan will reach that status.

Ghost isn't in Rielly's universe.

 

[1865]

He's a train wreck without the puck. I can't think of many with such a talent discrepancy from offence to defence. Shades of early Karlsson.

That’s not really true. An opinion born over a week rather than a year. Ghost has been our best defenseman this season, with emphasis on defence.

He had a rough series. Many did.

 

[1865]

And yet everytime there's a listing of the top D, I see his name.

That’s because lists are made over time, not after one or two bad games.

 

[Sticksandsun]

He was a ghost this series

 

[LeafFever]

That’s because lists are made over time, not after one or two bad games.

But he should not be on any top D list at any time.

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

He and Ivan we're absolutely unreal together, not a shock when they're paired with Andy and Hagg they don't have great games

You'd have to be a salty ass moron to make a thread like this.

 

[CanadianPensFan1]

He'll get better for sure. He's still young and has tons of potential.

 

[Fatty McLardy]

ok so he has to clean up a bit in his own end like any other young d-men???

i don't get the point of this thread.

 

[1865]

But he should not be on any top D list at any time.

Why not? He’s had an excellent season at both ends of the ice. He was our best defenseman and one of the top offensive defensemen in the league too. He’s absolutely one of the best.

This entire forum is founded on the thought that only the last week matters.

 

[LeafFever]

Why not? He’s had an excellent season at both ends of the ice. He was our best defenseman and one of the top offensive defensemen in the league too. He’s absolutely one of the best.

This entire forum is founded on the thought that only the last week matters.

You are saying this to the wrong person. I have been complaining about that all week. To be a top DMan you can't playeda sheltered role like he does.

 

[bauer]

He had a bad series for sure, but he was amazing during the regular season. That includes defensively.

You don't write off one of the most dynamic young D in the league because of one bad playoff series against one of the league’s best offensive teams.

 

[member 147413]

Maybe he just sucks in the playoffs

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

Not sure why he gets so much hate. Really talented young forward.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

For the Flyers fan claiming he was just bad the last 6 games:



He's just clueless as to what to do away from the puck.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

Not sure why he gets so much hate. Really talented young forward.

Incredible.

 

[1865]

You are saying this to the wrong person. I have been complaining about that all week. To be a top DMan you can't playeda sheltered role like he does.

Look man, you don’t really know what you’re talking about here and you’re reiterating tired old platitudes that aren’t true.

Ghost has been a top line defenseman for some time now. He’s playing pretty much the same minutes as Provorov. Ghost is not sheltered.

 

[DearDiary]

Look man, you don’t really know what you’re talking about here and you’re reiterating tired old platitudes that aren’t true.

Ghost has been a top line defenseman for some time now. He’s playing pretty much the same minutes as Provorov. Ghost is not sheltered.

"Sheltered" refers to QOC (quality of competition) and Zone Starts. You're sheltered if you're playing 20+ min a game with low DZ starts, low QOC and little to no time on the PK.

 

[NeedleInTheHay]

The reincarnation of Marc-Andre Bergeron