Seravalli: Garland is a "free asset", teams want assets to take him

[AHLdepth]

Now that OEL is out of the picture, would Canucks fans do Granlund and POJ for Garland? I recall reading that the Canucks wanted to add a 2C and Granlund was a 50 point guy over 4 years with Nashville as a center.

I'm not going to try to shine a turd into acting like Granlund is anything special, but he has shown to be able to produce in an offensive role and POJ seems like a logical replacement for OEL that costs a fraction of the money.

If the Canucks are going to trade for Granlund fine, but it does not involve the pieces you want it to involve.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Now that OEL is out of the picture, would Canucks fans do Granlund and POJ for Garland? I recall reading that the Canucks wanted to add a 2C and Granlund was a 50 point guy over 4 years with Nashville as a center.

I'm not going to try to shine a turd into acting like Granlund is anything special, but he has shown to be able to produce in an offensive role and POJ seems like a logical replacement for OEL that costs a fraction of the money.

Granlund isn't a C though. At least not a competent one.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

Man, there's so many Canucks I'd rather move than him.

 

[jackjohnson]

Now that OEL is out of the picture, would Canucks fans do Granlund and POJ for Garland? I recall reading that the Canucks wanted to add a 2C and Granlund was a 50 point guy over 4 years with Nashville as a center.

I'm not going to try to shine a turd into acting like Granlund is anything special, but he has shown to be able to produce in an offensive role and POJ seems like a logical replacement for OEL that costs a fraction of the money.

Nope, Canucks need D and also I rather keep Garland now that OEL is bought out. Only reason it came to trading Garland was because no one was taking Boeser or Myers and OEL was untradeable.

Man, there's so many Canucks I'd rather move than him.

Yep, Myers being one and Boeser the other one, and Pearson, and poolman

 

[Diamonddog01]

Now that OEL is out of the picture, would Canucks fans do Granlund and POJ for Garland? I recall reading that the Canucks wanted to add a 2C and Granlund was a 50 point guy over 4 years with Nashville as a center.

I'm not going to try to shine a turd into acting like Granlund is anything special, but he has shown to be able to produce in an offensive role and POJ seems like a logical replacement for OEL that costs a fraction of the money.

No thanks - Granlund is washed, not remotely appealing at all.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Granlund isn't a C though. At least not a competent one.

I mean he put up 64 points as a center in 2021-2022 though.

I'm not going to act like he's anything special, because he is explicitly not, but I'd imagine you could get 50 points out of him in a 2C role just like Nashville was getting out of him.

 

[jackjohnson]

Red Wings can offer pick #17 and Vancouver's original 2nd rounder (pick #41) for Garland and #11. Add Zadina if needed or just to give the kid a fresh start.

I would go with Garland and 11th for 17th, 2nd, 3rd and 4th round pick. Garland is not free asset anymore imo since Canucks now have cap space and not desperate.

 

[StickShift]

The calculus of trading Garland changes with the OEL buyout.

The primary purpose of any Garland trade is no longer Vancouver needing to make cap space. They have the leverage of being able to walk away now without making a trade. The primary purpose shifts now to the acquiring team wanting Garland.

 

[elitepete]

Now that OEL is out of the picture, would Canucks fans do Granlund and POJ for Garland? I recall reading that the Canucks wanted to add a 2C and Granlund was a 50 point guy over 4 years with Nashville as a center.

I'm not going to try to shine a turd into acting like Granlund is anything special, but he has shown to be able to produce in an offensive role and POJ seems like a logical replacement for OEL that costs a fraction of the money.

No thanks.

 

[Double Dion]

I still think Vancouver needs to move one of Boeser, Pearson or Garland. That blueline doesn't have a single guy capable of playing top 6 competition. Not a good place to be. As a Flames fan I know how much it sucks to have crappy ownership. Part of the blame is on Benning, but the lions share on the ownership he was taking his marching orders from.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I still think Vancouver needs to move one of Boeser, Pearson or Garland. That blueline doesn't have a single guy capable of playing top 6 competition. Not a good place to be. As a Flames fan I know how much it sucks to have crappy ownership. Part of the blame is on Benning, but the lions share on the ownership he was taking his marching orders from.

I agree that they still likely end up trading Boeser or Garland, but as others have said, the OEL buyout eliminates the need for them to make that move. They can sit on Garland and Boeser until they get an offer they like.

I still don't think Garland would have crazy high value because the Vancouver management doesn't seem super high on him, but he will bring back positive value now.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

No thanks - Granlund is washed, not remotely appealing at all.

One Grandlund was enough.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Now that OEL is out of the picture, would Canucks fans do Granlund and POJ for Garland? I recall reading that the Canucks wanted to add a 2C and Granlund was a 50 point guy over 4 years with Nashville as a center.

I'm not going to try to shine a turd into acting like Granlund is anything special, but he has shown to be able to produce in an offensive role and POJ seems like a logical replacement for OEL that costs a fraction of the money.

Counter Pettersson for Garland.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Counter Pettersson for Garland.

Absolutely not

I'd probably do POJ for Garland straight up if I could find another deal for Granlund somewhere else, but absolutely not Pettersson.

 

[andora]

ain't free anymore f***ers..

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

Something around Garland for Hanafin could probably work for both teams now OEL is out of the picture. Canucks could use a LHD and Flames could use a RHS winger.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Absolutely not

I'd probably do POJ for Garland straight up if I could find another deal for Granlund somewhere else, but absolutely not Pettersson.

what about rutta for garland.

 

[TheBeard]

He's going back to Arizona isn't he.

 

[razor ray]

ain't free anymore f***ers..

By no means did his value go up with OEL being bought out.

 

[iFan]

I still think Vancouver needs to move one of Boeser, Pearson or Garland. That blueline doesn't have a single guy capable of playing top 6 competition. Not a good place to be. As a Flames fan I know how much it sucks to have crappy ownership. Part of the blame is on Benning, but the lions share on the ownership he was taking his marching orders from.

Pearson career is probably done, Canucks don’t need to move him (LTIR)

 

[66-30-33]

By no means did his value go up with OEL being bought out.

Garlands back on the menu boys!

 

[andora]

By no means did his value go up with OEL being bought out.

If they got nothing today but bought time to be patient and get something later

It certainly helped

 

[rt]

Once Myers bonus is paid, trade him and Garland to Arizona for a 2026 6th rounder.

 

[razor ray]

If they got nothing today but bought time to be patient and get something later

It certainly helped

Perhaps but what is the return later? Vancouver really needs to make a bold move, or two, if they want to compete with Vegas, Edmonton and LA. If the bold move is to prolong the pain of OEL and keep Garland, that basically means they are likely to be drafting around the same spot next year or bounced in the 1st round.

I actually liked the way Vancouver was playing at the end of the year but hopefully the plan is to do more besides buying out OEL just for some space to keep current players.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

I'm actually surprised a team hasn't just taken him for nothing. He's a 15-20 goal, 50 point, 2nd/3rd line tweener who is fiesty and can produce in the crunch making sub $5 mil for only 3 more seasons.