Post-Game Talk: Game 9 - Kings stun B's in last second of OT - LA 2 BRUINS 1 F/OT

[ODAAT]

There's certainly something to be said for Pasta scoring less centered by Backes instead of Krejci, but Pasta played like garbage all on his own Saturday night. It was disappointing to watch

I`m not so sure he isn`t fighting an injury or something, last two games I watched something just doesn`t seem right with him and I`m not so sure it`s who he`s playing with

 

[TheReal13Linseman]

I’m hope you are being sarcastic, but as long as we are drawing and quartering Krug, guess we should do the same to
Pasta who was as bad/worse in the OT.

Not in the least. 100% Krug's fault for the OT loss. All he had to do was make the red line and dump it in. He was under no pressure. Simply inexcusable.

 

[BruinDust]

More like pointing out some teams win cups with players that arent the horse pulling the cart

The op was pittsburg won with substandard dmen... i suggest those substandard dmen werent the KEY to winning... but rather pittsburgh was overpowered enough at other positions to win inspite of their defense. Hence throwing out a name like chris nilan. Im sure i can find 100 names from the last 20 cup winners i could use

Might krug play top 4 on a cup winner? Sure... worst players have. Would a cup contender happily make krug their first option to fill their top 4 role?

I know i wouldnt

But when hes on a hot streak and on pace for 50 points i luke warmly say hes worth 5 mill caphit

Hes injured now... ive seen him score in the past. Ill give him time to get healthy

But this is a guy that hurts us when hes not scoring

How about you give the 6 guys who made up that Pittsburgh D-corps a bit of credit. Sub-standard D-men...

Look I get it, this is HF Boards, where name value, or brand value, of players trumps how they actually perform on the ice.

The D was a key to them winning another championship, no team has ever won a cup because their offense is so great, their forwards so deep, that it could make up for a group of D-men not playing at a high level.

The key was how they used them.

Dumoulin - 21.59
Hainsey - 21.07
Maatta - 20.37
Schultz - 19.44
Daley - 19.07
Cole - 18.50

Guys were kept fresher, able to perform better longer, because rather than overload say Dumoulin and Hainsey at the expense of Daley and Cole, Sullivan realized he had 6 capable guys and used them properly.

And their version of Torey Krug (Schultz), lo and behold, was 4th in ice time among D-men.

Oh and get this, they did it while defeating a team that has arguably the most vaunted "TOP 4 D" in the league. Imagine that.

Because all I keep reading here about Torey Krug is a debate over whether he's a Top 4 D or not a Top 4 D as if it really matters. Guys is a valuable and effective player, brings a skill-set that is only matched by McAvoy among D-men on the team, transitions the puck and produces offense at an elite level.

Why does he need to be scoring all the time to be valuable? Do you think there isn't value in his ability to transition the puck out of Boston's end? Why does it only have value if the forward group scores off that puck transition?

 

[bruins repeat time]

Wow I guess the wolves are on Krug now, it used to be K,miller couldn't play in the league and as much as I love and supported him through out this is even funnier. I am not here to say Krug has been anything but awful this yr , he has been. He has a couple excuses though and I can see him coming along now . Did he make a couple of huge huge mistakes Saturday-yes but his overall game was better . Krug is far far more than a p.p specialist and this teams needs him badly . Lol Pittsburgh would've killed to have him the last two playoffs especially due to injuries . Krug is a good puck mover , pretty good offensive d-man that isn't fantastic defensively but no where near where the wolves have him. Love Charlie to no end but he is now getting really overrated on here as to where he is on the whole defensive side at this stage in his development .

 

[Otherworld]

All in all, I am very happy with the game the Bruins played. Yes there were mistakes. And there will be much more mistakes to watch over the course of this season ..... you can bet on that. Fact of the matter is, the Bruins battled and pushed back against a very good, heavier, stronger and highly skilled team like L.A.

Let's not forget that Quick saved the game twice in overtime as he is one of the best tenders in the business.

The other thing I really liked. The play of Tuukka. Khudobin playing the game he did against San Jose does wonders for the team. And Rask in no exception. Rask looked sharper than I have seen him in a very long time and I believe it has to do with him being pushed by the backup to make sure he does not get complacent with his job.

The way I see it, this is just another lesson for the young players and coach alike.

 

[mjhfb]

How about you give the 6 guys who made up that Pittsburgh D-corps a bit of credit. Sub-standard D-men...

Look I get it, this is HF Boards, where name value, or brand value, of players trumps how they actually perform on the ice.

The D was a key to them winning another championship, no team has ever won a cup because their offense is so great, their forwards so deep, that it could make up for a group of D-men not playing at a high level.

The key was how they used them.

Dumoulin - 21.59
Hainsey - 21.07
Maatta - 20.37
Schultz - 19.44
Daley - 19.07
Cole - 18.50

Guys were kept fresher, able to perform better longer, because rather than overload say Dumoulin and Hainsey at the expense of Daley and Cole, Sullivan realized he had 6 capable guys and used them properly.

And their version of Torey Krug (Schultz), lo and behold, was 4th in ice time among D-men.

Oh and get this, they did it while defeating a team that has arguably the most vaunted "TOP 4 D" in the league. Imagine that.

Because all I keep reading here about Torey Krug is a debate over whether he's a Top 4 D or not a Top 4 D as if it really matters. Guys is a valuable and effective player, brings a skill-set that is only matched by McAvoy among D-men on the team, transitions the puck and produces offense at an elite level.

Why does he need to be scoring all the time to be valuable? Do you think there isn't value in his ability to transition the puck out of Boston's end? Why does it only have value if the forward group scores off that puck transition?

Also - many said local boys Dumoulin and Hainsey (those "Sub-standard D") were the best defensemen on the ice games 5 and 6.

 

[BruinDust]

Also - many said local boys Dumoulin and Hainsey (those "Sub-standard D") were the best defensemen on the ice games 5 and 6.

Yup, two games where the Penguins didn't allow a single goal.

I guess that must of been Matt Murray covering for them being so "sub-standard" (Sarcasm).

 

[ODAAT]

Also - many said local boys Dumoulin and Hainsey (those "Sub-standard D") were the best defensemen on the ice games 5 and 6.

Good point, I`d argue the D for the B`s cup winning team wasn`t exactly star laden either outside of Z

Just a bunch of guys who seemed to be the perfect fit at the perfect time, none other than Z heading to the HOF but that doesn`t matter, it`s all about getting the job done, whether it looks sexy while doing it or not

 

[Fenway]

Not sure if the NESN feed clock is off or what, but the clock def started on time in the feed I was looking at.

This issue comes up more in NBA games but in basketball that ball has to be in the air before the clock hits zero.

At TD Garden the OFFICIAL clock is not the center ice scoreboard or the big display behind the goals, but rather the 4 small boards at each corner of the arena. Video at 60 frames per second does not handle tenths of a second accurately. The clock operator responded as quickly as one humanly can.

We broke the tape down and the puck was in the net in .7 seconds - it was a perfect shot. The key to this is when the green light came on. Believe me we wanted proof that time had expired - we couldn't do it.

 

[hoss75]

All in all, I am very happy with the game the Bruins played. Yes there were mistakes. And there will be much more mistakes to watch over the course of this season ..... you can bet on that. Fact of the matter is, the Bruins battled and pushed back against a very good, heavier, stronger and highly skilled team like L.A.

Let's not forget that Quick saved the game twice in overtime as he is one of the best tenders in the business.

The other thing I really liked. The play of Tuukka. Khudobin playing the game he did against San Jose does wonders for the team. And Rask in no exception. Rask looked sharper than I have seen him in a very long time and I believe it has to do with him being pushed by the backup to make sure he does not get complacent with his job.

The way I see it, this is just another lesson for the young players and coach alike.

All good points. WHile I didn't enjoy the last second loss. I'm getting a lot of positives from this steam. There's still plenty of time for them to find their groove and gel as a unit

 

[Otherworld]

All good points. WHile I didn't enjoy the last second loss. I'm getting a lot of positives from this steam. There's still plenty of time for them to find their groove and gel as a unit

This was a fantastic game to watch. I think we all need to take a step back and remember that. If the Bruins can put efforts like that on the ice in some kind of consistent fashion then we will be just fine.

 

[BigBear83]

Dont want to pile on krug.. i think he is just trying to do too much to make up for his defensive lapses, but its obviously not working. he said the other day that he is "close" just needs that one big play . which really just sounds dumb , he needs to realize that he does all the basic stuff better than the majoriy of defenseman when it comes to the offensive side of things

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

Now Krug is “hot garbage” when he’s not scoring? Where is that advanced stat listed?

Since when do teams have Top 3 D? In my experience, teams usually have two D at a time on the ice, so you would call a Dman 1st pair, 2nd pair, bottom pair, Top 2, Top 4...is this like the Triangle offense only with D?

I have personally listed the number of Dmen who are not as good offensively and similarly defensively to Krug at least three times. I don’t have the energy to do it again. In the new NHL, GM’s want offensive production from the back end and they are willing to pay average defenders who can contribute offensively. Krug is not overpaid by league standards.

As far as you building a Cup contender, I look forward to the day that some owner has the intelligence and foresight to hand you the reins of an NHL team. It would certainly be nice interesting.

usually most teams have a couple guys that they hope can play both special teams... and if they are lucky can also be run out against the other team's top offensive unit

teams that are luckier... might have a 3rd guy they feel comfortable using this way...

these types of dmen are very valuable... and if you pay one 5 mill a year you are probably getting good value if the guy is able to fulfill the responsibilities of the assignment

the 3rd dman will slip up into the top pair when one of the top pair is hurt... the 3rd dman might get games where they see their icetime jump to 27-29 mins because that's their job

theres very very very few teams in recent memory that have a 4th dman that could play this type of role on a team.

by getting the huge paycheck krug become a defacto top 3. we simply don't have enough cap room to hire someone else for this position. better or worst... the decision is made.

now theres a responsibility on his part... to deliever a performance. if he doesn't then its fair game to point to him that he is letting us down

to be honest... miller and mcquaid are being paid way too much for bottom pair guys too. one could criticize them as well simply because they don't bring as much as a 2.5 mill defender should deliever

and yes... krug when he isn't producing offense... is a very horrible defenseman. producing offense is very very very necessary to make him worth any value to the team

 

[Fenway]

This issue comes up more in NBA games but in basketball that ball has to be in the air before the clock hits zero.

At TD Garden the OFFICIAL clock is not the center ice scoreboard or the big display behind the goals, but rather the 4 small boards at each corner of the arena. Video at 60 frames per second does not handle tenths of a second accurately. The clock operator responded as quickly as one humanly can.

We broke the tape down and the puck was in the net in .7 seconds - it was a perfect shot. The key to this is when the green light came on. Believe me we wanted proof that time had expired - we couldn't do it.

This is the official clock

 

[Terrier]

Tidbit from 98.5 today: the B's-Kings game outrated the Celtics game in Boston on Sat. night, 2.6 to 2.4. For my part, if the Bruins were 0-9, I'd still be tuning in NESN tonight.

 

[NDiesel]

Tidbit from 98.5 today: the B's-Kings game outrated the Celtics game in Boston on Sat. night, 2.6 to 2.4. For my part, if the Bruins were 0-9, I'd still be tuning in NESN tonight.

NBA has to be the most boring pro sport as of today. It's an all-star game between the same 4 teams every single season, I don't follow it enough but I assume it's expected to be Lebron vs. Curry again. Actually makes me a little sad it only outrated it by .2, although I do understand NBA is still very popular in the U.S.

 

[Fenway]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/how-to-score-with-9-seconds-left-on-the-clock~1244569