I did too, but mainly because it was the Rangers and we've seen this before. I don't think the Jackets have had a habit of 3rd period collapses this year.... other than 3 times against the Rangers. Even that game in NY seemed like it'd be a loss if it went on another 5 minutes, despite a 6-0 lead going into the 3rd. These guys definitely have a mental block with this team despite outplaying them more often than not. For that reason, I'd rather avoid them in the playoffs.
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I did too, but mainly because it was the Rangers and we've seen this before. I don't think the Jackets have had a habit of 3rd period collapses this year.... other than 3 times against the Rangers. Even that game in NY seemed like it'd be a loss if it went on another 5 minutes, despite a 6-0 lead going into the 3rd. These guys definitely have a mental block with this team despite outplaying them more often than not. For that reason, I'd rather avoid them in the playoffs.
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Most would say no one is elite or only Bob. I agree that Jones is getting there - If he can keep playing like this he's elite in my book.
Let's not ascribe everything to the Jackets - the Rangers MO is to snipe their way to victory, whether they get outplayed or not. They've been doing it to everyone.
This is why we are a team struggling to make the playoffs now. No elite players. The "elite" teams have multiple elite players. There is a reason that the Cup has only been won by three teams in the past six years. I would contend that the Jackets have zero elite players right now. Bob messes with that level, but then will have a stretch where soft goals cost us.
Since the streak, this team has a .421 win percentage (8-10-1). Forecast that out over the last 27 games, that means 11 more wins. I don't think anyone thought this team might struggle to get to 100 points 19 games ago. Things need to turn around fast or this club will start to panic and become "fragile." This is where Jarmo needs to earn his salary.
Off the ledge people. The Jackets played a pretty good game last night - unfortunately, there were a couple mistakes that ended up in the back of the net.
Still, the Jackets are in an enviable position, and I'd argue way ahead of schedule given the youth on the roster. Their chances of making the playoffs are fantastic, and to the poster who felt bad for the fans in attendance last night, don't feel bad for this guy, I've had season tickets since 2000 and can tell you this season has been the best by far at the arena, and I really think I'll be seeing some games in mid-April forward too.
http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Eastern/Metropolitan/Columbus.html
Still, the Jackets are in an enviable position, and I'd argue way ahead of schedule given the youth on the roster. Their chances of making the playoffs are fantastic, and to the poster who felt bad for the fans in attendance last night, don't feel bad for this guy, I've had season tickets since 2000 and can tell you this season has been the best by far at the arena, and I really think I'll be seeing some games in mid-April forward too.
http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Eastern/Metropolitan/Columbus.html
This team will go as far as Bob takes them.
Goals will be tough to come by in the playoffs, but I believe Torts style will help us. We're not going to outscore many teams once playoffs start. It will all come down to Bob and the defense in front of him. If Bob (and he defense) is playing well we're be ok. But if Bob isn't on we'll get run pretty quickly.
Just have to hope Bob gets hot.
Goals will be tough to come by in the playoffs, but I believe Torts style will help us. We're not going to outscore many teams once playoffs start. It will all come down to Bob and the defense in front of him. If Bob (and he defense) is playing well we're be ok. But if Bob isn't on we'll get run pretty quickly.
Just have to hope Bob gets hot.
Dr. Fire
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The thing that I find sad is that we are playing ourselves into a wild-card spot, rather then a spot where we could get home ice advantage. I really don't see this trend getting much better. We will probably hang right around the .500 mark the rest of the way.
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Neat site.
Wouldn't mind MTL, OTT or TOR in the playoffs (if we finish ~.500 we're at 53% to play MTL and 23% to see OTT)
Few take aways from being at the game:
-Crowd was pathetic. Dead all night aside from a few chances, saves, missed penalties. Also surprised it wasn't a near sellout.
-Jenner's tunnel-vision costs this team prime scoring chances every night. Each time he enters the zone with the puck, he just rips a slap shot from the top of the circle right into the goalie's chest and he swallows it up for no rebound. He's gotta look to pass the puck off, there was one instance last night where Atkinson was darting down the wing wide open and if he had received the puck, he would have had a prime scoring chance.
-First line was much better. I could sense Foligno was very frustrated all throughout the game, he was being held/hooked/grabbed (a lot by Hayes) all night with no calls - same with Calvert and Anderson.
-I like Nuti on the second unit. He has a good wrist shot from the point.
-Seth Jones is a superstar. He reminds me a lot of Victor Hedman with the way he carries the puck.
-Bob's gotta steal that one for us. Sure we outplayed the Rags for most of the 5vs5 time, but we essentially gave them two goals (the SH and breakaway). Can't fault him on the puck that was tipped by Z, but he's gotta stop that breakaway. And he can't let that rookie go bar down on him late in the third just after the game being tied.
-Crowd was pathetic. Dead all night aside from a few chances, saves, missed penalties. Also surprised it wasn't a near sellout.
-Jenner's tunnel-vision costs this team prime scoring chances every night. Each time he enters the zone with the puck, he just rips a slap shot from the top of the circle right into the goalie's chest and he swallows it up for no rebound. He's gotta look to pass the puck off, there was one instance last night where Atkinson was darting down the wing wide open and if he had received the puck, he would have had a prime scoring chance.
-First line was much better. I could sense Foligno was very frustrated all throughout the game, he was being held/hooked/grabbed (a lot by Hayes) all night with no calls - same with Calvert and Anderson.
-I like Nuti on the second unit. He has a good wrist shot from the point.
-Seth Jones is a superstar. He reminds me a lot of Victor Hedman with the way he carries the puck.
-Bob's gotta steal that one for us. Sure we outplayed the Rags for most of the 5vs5 time, but we essentially gave them two goals (the SH and breakaway). Can't fault him on the puck that was tipped by Z, but he's gotta stop that breakaway. And he can't let that rookie go bar down on him late in the third just after the game being tied.
CarolinaBlueJacket
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All of these stats are cool and fun to look at but it reminds me of the recent presidential race. I looked at some statistics on who would win before the election and it was basically that the guy who won (leaving actual politics out of it) only had a 20% chance of winning and it had been that way for quite some time. All of those predictions were based on previous data and current polling so how could it be off by that much? As someone who works with statistics I can tell you that its just odds and is not reality. Either way its a good way to waste a few minutes.
The bottom line is this team needs to start winning some games or they will get bounced out of the playoffs.
Columbus Mike
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A big difference is that saying the Jackets are 14 points ahead of the last team out of the playoffs is a fact, not an inexact poll. Even playing .500 the rest of the way puts u on 102 points, which is more than enough to get in.
Its nice for a change to not be franticly pursuing points, hoping to get in off the bubble.
Given our position in the standings and the playoffs on the horizon, I'd rather be playing well (like last night) and losing every other game, than playing poorly and getting lucky to win 2 out of every 3.
If we continue to play well, the results will come. What you don't want to do is blow things up trying to fix problems that are minor or nonexistent because a back up goalie stood on his head last night and our all star goalie allowed a rare softie.
That game could have very easily ended 3-1 Jackets, or 4-2 Jackets.
JKinCLE
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This.
As frustrating as the Jackets have been to watch lately, I keep reminding myself of this fact. I didn't renew my season tickets this year since I figured they'd be a lottery team (and I'm saving for a wedding).
If I see playoff hockey, it means the team has largely exceeded my expectations. Once you get in, anything can happen. Also, as others have stated, the #1 WC is in all honesty the best chance for them to win a round.
CarolinaBlueJacket
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Which they are not doing now.
I think they will make the playoffs and of course I hope they do but they are approaching dangerous territory.
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I was very impressed with the puck movement in the offensive zone and the pace at which the CBJ played last night. If they keep playing like they did last night, then they'll be fine.
Gagne has no goals in his last 23 games. He has generated 35 shots on goal. He's a 10% career shooter, so it could be argued that he's just going through a rough "bad luck" spell, but I'd think he's going to get a press box view if he doesn't get off the schneid soon.
When was the game time for last night's game changed? The person I was heading up with arrived late at my house so we just went to the Miami Valley Casino to watch the game. We could have made it up easily given the 730 start.
Gagne has no goals in his last 23 games. He has generated 35 shots on goal. He's a 10% career shooter, so it could be argued that he's just going through a rough "bad luck" spell, but I'd think he's going to get a press box view if he doesn't get off the schneid soon.
When was the game time for last night's game changed? The person I was heading up with arrived late at my house so we just went to the Miami Valley Casino to watch the game. We could have made it up easily given the 730 start.
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Oops
I never even bothered to check the schedule. The devil is always in the details, so they say. Whoever they are.
I never even bothered to check the schedule. The devil is always in the details, so they say. Whoever they are.
CBJfan4evr
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Have you looked at the last 27 games? It's a tough road ahead with no easy games. Lot's of good and desperate teams lie in our path. I could easily see this come down to the last week of the season. The upcoming matchups with Tor and Buf we'll really help or hinder our case. Anyone notice that since we flipped our games over to the eastern conference we've been on the decline?
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They certainly didn't do this the first half. The 2nd period has been a boon to their existence since the new yer and they certainly don't play like the same team the played a hard 60 minutes and never took the foot of the pedal even when beating the Canadiens 10-0.
Now they sleep walk through the start of the 2nd periods and play scared. the confidence an swagger is gone. I bet they don't even believe they own the 3rd periods like the did to start the year. They could be down one and still believe they would win, now they hold on for dear life and play desperate.
SuperGenius
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Why would you only forecast the recent results? Why not forecast performance from a different segment of the season or the entire season overall?
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Not Kev but, because 50 years and many lbs ago I could do things that I can't do now. I think recency trumps the overall in projecting future events although it doesn't get it right all the time. The fact is this team is not playing like they did through December. Unless and until they show signs of that kind of performance on a consistent basis I see them limping into the playoffs and headed for a quick exit.
We Want Ten
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Its like people only watched the highlights on NHL.com. The only reason this team was even in the game was because Bob played tough.
Bob needs to steal games like this at some point, but to say Korpi would have stopped more is silly given the Korpi we have seen this year.
