Post-Game Talk: Game 5 - BRUINS crap out in Vegas - VGK 3 BRUINS 1 FINAL

[DKH]

Turns out the Bruins got into Vegas before Midnight on Saturday night so it is safe to assume some of the players wandered around their hotel which is also a casino.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ2111

they had no jump at all- I would have given them one period and in between first and second told my team first 10 minutes of second period will determine who my 9 forwards are going to be, the rest will get to skate in practice

when half your team is not going you have to figure out a way to get a couple to find it

 

[s3antana5757]

Broke a nail opening dressing room door.

Day-to-day

Close. It was the bench door. They said he was getting ice time and in a moment of nervousness and uncertainty, broke the nail. Tough injury.

 

[Bruinaura]

While I hate seeing Nash on the 1st line and on the PP as much as anyone, I don't hate him as a player. He is a good role guy and does well on the PK, but right now he is being asked to do things that are above his capabilities, which is frustrating and has been difficult to watch.

Is there any word on Bergeron's injury or status for this week?

 

[Blowfish]

Miller had a strong game for LV I wanted him over McQuaid. Oh well that ship has sailed off into the sunset. Familiar theme

 

[s3antana5757]

Miller had a strong game for LV I wanted him over McQuaid. Oh well that ship has sailed off into the sunset. Familiar theme

Really got beat by a bunch of former Bruins. Smith, Subban, and Miller.

I've made my thoughts on C. Miller very clear before. To me, he was the best D on the ice last night. He didn't wow and had some sloppy turnovers, but what he brings offensively and as a skater are elite skills. This team sorely lacks elite skills, especially on the back end.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

I was playing hockey last night so I missed the 3rd. Did they get a scoring chance in the 3rd? Cause I think they only had 1 the first two periods combined...

Abysmal game.

 

[Blowfish]

Really got beat by a bunch of former Bruins. Smith, Subban, and Miller.

I've made my thoughts on C. Miller very clear before. To me, he was the best D on the ice last night. He didn't wow and had some sloppy turnovers, but what he brings offensively and as a skater are elite skills. This team sorely lacks elite skills, especially on the back end.

Good post. Totally agree. Funny bruins beat by cast offs. Spooner next to follow. Way to funny.

 

[Fenian24]

Really got beat by a bunch of former Bruins. Smith, Subban, and Miller.

I've made my thoughts on C. Miller very clear before. To me, he was the best D on the ice last night. He didn't wow and had some sloppy turnovers, but what he brings offensively and as a skater are elite skills. This team sorely lacks elite skills, especially on the back end.

Not my criteria to being the best D on the ice.

 

[NDiesel]

I know you aren't a fan of McQuaid and Miller both being on the team but how do you think Carlo has played so far, to me he has been one of the bigger disappointments.

He's been awful actually, I'm not sure why he's always diving around all of a sudden? I'm a little worried, but also he could just be hitting that sophomore slump. I don't think he should be paired with Chara at the moment as he is also having his own issues.

I actually am fine with having them both on the team for depth reasons, but I just think if in the lineup with Chara as well we are a little bit offensively challenged from the backend. Even add Carlo to that group this year, he's definitely taken a step back in regards to positioning and handling the puck.

 

[NDiesel]

Also a note on C. Miller. I've watched quite a few Vegas games already this year. He still has the exact same issues. Can skate the puck but is wildly inconsistent and has some terrible turnovers. His shot has gotten more accurate.

He's going to be at least a 3rd pairing guy in this league because of his speed and shot, but I don't know if he'll ever be more at this point.

I think us fans have a tendency to dwell over guys we lose, but he's someone I wouldn't lose sleep over. Subban as well.

 

[Sevendust]

Really got beat by a bunch of former Bruins. Smith, Subban, and Miller.

I've made my thoughts on C. Miller very clear before. To me, he was the best D on the ice last night. He didn't wow and had some sloppy turnovers, but what he brings offensively and as a skater are elite skills. This team sorely lacks elite skills, especially on the back end.

I liked C. Miller when he was here but MacAvoy is already an better player than him and that despite beeing an 19 year old with almost no NHL experience

C. Miller having elite offensive and skating skills is one of the funniest things I read on this thread today.

 

[Fenway]

Losing Malcolm Subban comes back to haunt Bruins


The Bruins are now 2-3-0 less than two weeks into the new season and looking very much like a club in need of changing the mix of forwards before playing again Thursday night at the Garden vs. Vancouver.

They were shut out, 4-0, in Game 2 by the Avs, on home ice, then followed that with a tepid attack in a 6-3 loss two nights later in Colorado. Here, on the final game of their three-game road trip, they failed yet again to mount sustained offensive pressure, making it so easy for Subban that the upstart Knights might have won had they started his more famous brother, Nashville blueliner P.K. Subban, in the net.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

I liked C. Miller when he was here but MacAvoy is already an better player than him and that despite beeing an 19 year old with almost no NHL experience

C. Miller having elite offensive and skating skills is one of the funniest things I read on this thread today.

The elite offensive skills are definitely questionable but man that guy can skate.

 

[Otherworld]

How is it “clear” the Bruins “mismanaged” Subban? They gave him four years to win an NHL backup job and he couldn’t do it (whether it was talent or bad luck). The NHL has rules regarding waivers, and Subban was out of options. He’s not better than Khudobin at this point. He’s not better than MacIntyre at this point.

Explain to me how the B’s could have “managed” Subban better based on all that matters, how he played. He was a first round pick and the B’s gave him every opportunity to succeed.

The Bruins already knew he needed more time, so why did we get stuck in the position of placing on waivers in the first place?
The goaltender position take the longest to develop. Everyone knows that. Having him run out of time is bad asset management.

 

[xgallantx]

I was playing hockey last night so I missed the 3rd. Did they get a scoring chance in the 3rd? Cause I think they only had 1 the first two periods combined...

Abysmal game.

Watched the whole thing - missed the scoring chance you speak of lol. May have been the worse game I've ever seen the Bruins play, and I've seen some stinkers. I'm sure I could've held them to 1 goal last night. Subban literally had to do nothing.

 

[xgallantx]

The Bruins already knew he needed more time, so why did we get stuck in the position of placing on waivers in the first place?
The goaltender position take the longest to develop. Everyone knows that. Having him run out of time is bad asset management.

 

[xgallantx]

No way. Nothing Subban has done to this point in his career tells me he'll amount to anything. Surely last night didn't change my mind. I think the Bruins ended with ZERO scoring chances......well if I was scoring the game that's what I would've gave them....If anything the bad assest management was the pick itself. the Bruins were not in need of a goaltending prospect and spent a 1st rounder on it anyway. Could've and should've nabbed Brady Skeji with that pick. Shook my head as soon as the selection was made. At that point we were in need of defence prospects and didn't take the best one on the board. It was such as schmucky and arrogant pick to make, like a dig at the Habs or something.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

The Bruins already knew he needed more time, so why did we get stuck in the position of placing on waivers in the first place?
The goaltender position take the longest to develop. Everyone knows that. Having him run out of time is bad asset management.

More time than 4 years?

You still haven’t answered the question, so I will. The only possible thing they could have done was carried 3 goalies for the foreseeable future. Other than that, there was no other choice or mismanagement. It was bad luck that Subban was hit by a puck in the throat. I really think that he was “getting” it when that happened and set him back. The situation wasn’t the Bruin’s fault, despite your attempts to make it appear that way.

 

[Sevendust]

The Bruins already knew he needed more time, so why did we get stuck in the position of placing on waivers in the first place?
The goaltender position take the longest to develop. Everyone knows that. Having him run out of time is bad asset management.

You can't be serious. Bruins gave him games before and he was useless. Last season when Khudobin and Rask went down, Subban did next to nothing to use this this as a chance and they had to rely on McIntyre and he wasn't very well either ...

 

[Tampbear]

The Bruins already knew he needed more time, so why did we get stuck in the position of placing on waivers in the first place?
The goaltender position take the longest to develop. Everyone knows that. Having him run out of time is bad asset management.

The management can't control everything like his injury the year before last which really set him back. Some things are just unfortunate situations, like Seidenberg's leg injury. Subban was a fine selection where he was and was developing fine, maybe not as fast as we would like but he was developing and had a traumatic injury. By the time he had recovered and was perhaps ready to be our backup it was a hard decision to make and a team hoping to compete had to go with the more reliable guy. Who is to say he Khudobin wouldn't have been selected and Subban could have fallen on his face leaving us without a reliable backup.

 

[Mainehockey33]

You can't be serious. Bruins gave him games before and he was useless. Last season when Khudobin and Rask went down, Subban did next to nothing to use this this as a chance and they had to rely on McIntyre and he wasn't very well either ...

Yeah, 2 games is more than enough to know he sucks. I think that’s all we should give rookies from now on, 2 games.

 

[DarrenBanks56]

I cant believe I watched the first 2 periods of that mess.

That was brutal. Nobody skating in that game. This game actually reminded of a game from the Dave Lewis era

 

[Sevendust]

Yeah, 2 games is more than enough to know he sucks. I think that’s all we should give rookies from now on, 2 games.

Yeah you are right. Don't care about a save percentage of .500 in the first and .813 in the second one. Let's keep throwing him out there, don't care about wins and the goal to make the playoffs.

That's not how it's working. You have to push and show yourself in the minors and have to take the chance if you are getting one. Subban was nowhere near ready and one game hasn't changed that.

 

[Tampbear]

Yeah, 2 games is more than enough to know he sucks. I think that’s all we should give rookies from now on, 2 games.

Especially looking at the circumstances for his game last year, the kid was clearly off his game when they called him up as he was struggling in Providence working on regaining his form after his injury.

 

[Fenian24]

I can't believe there are people defending Subban and Spooner. It's like Logan's run with half these posters, anybody over 30 should be traded and an 18 year old sent in to replace them. Doesn't matter if they are good or not they MIGHT be good SOMEDAY and that's what matters apparently.

So how's Sweeney's half team of rookies doing so far? Maybe sit old men Bergeron and Kreji for JFK and Cehlarik? Chara for Zboril? Deal Marchand and play Senyshyn? Krug for Grzylik?

My old, gritty and tough may not be the answer but neither is young, fast and soft. Subban and Spooner are not guys you bemoan losing, you should package them and improve your team but that would require a better GM.