Yet again you resort to stats to make a point. I get it. We don't have his shifts in their entirety on video...never mind. I'm done with this. I'll wait until Bonino actually does something worthwhile to get on the bandwagon because obviously some people think he's doing just fine.
As for the game (my thoughts):
1st line:
Getz is carrrying that line for now. Palmieri is looking good, you can see the kid is trying hard. Perry seems to struggle early but it`s only a matter of time when he`ll be back at his top form.
2nd line:
They looked a bit better yesterday, but they`re still far. I think they`ll be able to find the chemistry soon. Bonino actually brings a pretty nice defensive awarness to that line, and have made some great passes here and there. However, he lacks the offensive abilities and i might be even more pissed that we didn`t picked up Connolly.
I saw some nice cyclings they made, but the trio have been playing together so short time, i`d like them to keep playing as they are at least for this weekend and don`t split them up.
3d line:
Thank you for 4 points in the standings in the first 2 games, guys
4th line:
Is it only me, or Rakell and Devo looked a bit too slow? Rakell is a nice surprise, but i would like to send him back to juniors for his last season there.
As for the game (my thoughts):
1st line:
Getz is carrrying that line for now. Palmieri is looking good, you can see the kid is trying hard. Perry seems to struggle early but it`s only a matter of time when he`ll be back at his top form.
2nd line:
They looked a bit better yesterday, but they`re still far. I think they`ll be able to find the chemistry soon. Bonino actually brings a pretty nice defensive awarness to that line, and have made some great passes here and there. However, he lacks the offensive abilities and i might be even more pissed that we didn`t picked up Connolly.
I saw some nice cyclings they made, but the trio have been playing together so short time, i`d like them to keep playing as they are at least for this weekend and don`t split them up.
3d line:
Thank you for 4 points in the standings in the first 2 games, guys
4th line:
Is it only me, or Rakell and Devo looked a bit too slow? Rakell is a nice surprise, but i would like to send him back to juniors for his last season there.
I agree with a lot of things you mentioned but not Connolly. He's very bad defensively so that line wouldn't have any defensive presence at all. In all likelihood, he'd also get injured fairly quickly as well and we'd be back at square one.
I think they're playing more cautiously than they are slow.
Is he really that horrible defensively? not that i watched him on a regular basis but i thought he was about ok there. He also seems to play a lot ofPK minutes.
hopefully we see holland soon too. we have quite a few games coming up shortly
Our third line isn't going to sustain this scoring pace for the season. It's nice that we have a line with chemistry in our bottom six, but getting the second line going has to happen in the next couple of weeks.
12 goals in 2 games and 20 pages on making changes to the lineup
12 goals in 2 games and 20 pages on making changes to the lineup
That production is unsustainable, and then Anaheim is going to need the 2nd line and their defense to be sharp. Winniking the first two games is great, but I think we'd all like them to keep winniking, and for that to happen there are areas that need to be better.
We're just expecting it to blow up. It always blows up.
That production is unsustainable, and then Anaheim is going to need the 2nd line and their defense to be sharp. Winning the first two games is great, but I think we'd all like them to keep winning, and for that to happen there are areas that need to be better.
Nice strawman. Nobody said he's "fine". People are saying that giving the 2C to a player that the coach felt was inferior to a juniors player for the 4th line role is premature. Since you don't have anything tangible to actually refute that, and Holland hasn't actually outperformed Bonino at any level, I'm really not sure what your rationale is.
Lol I'm getting accused of strawman from the first guy in this, I suppose this is some form of spat, to do so. I never really said Bonino has been outplayed. I admitted that I have no way of proving that Holland's AHL play > Bonino's performance. I don't have a rationale. I don't need one. I don't like Bonino there. I've never been a part of the group that thinks he's a future 30-40 point 2c with the right guidance. I've only seen flashes from Bonino and that's it. I simply don't feel comfortable with this team trying to make the playoffs with Bonino anchoring Selanne and Ryan. Do I think it's a guarantee that Holland will do a better job? No. I have a feeling, but I can easily be wrong. What I'm saying is, we should give Bonino a little more time and give some serious thought to other options. Even if that's a quick experiment with Holland at 2c. Give him a chance to, you know prove himself. We keep saying Holland hasn't proven he's better than Bonino, and then that defaults to the belief that we shouldn't even bother giving him a chance to do so.
Boner is fine at this line. He is doing his job and he is doing it fine. This line is much like the old Kariya - Rucchin - Selanne combo. The center is holding the back free for the wingers. They have to create the offense. Reading some wishes here, well, you all ask for a first line center. With Selanne in the linup you need a defensivly sound player to cover him. So in my mind, you're asking for a player like Bergeron.
Bonino will do fine, he will never become a high scoring player but he is doing his job on that line. It's not his fault that Bobby and Teemu do not play well together.
No, it defaults to the belief he should start on the 4th line like every other center the Ducks have developed in the last decade and work his way up if he earns the right. However poorly Bonino is performing offensively, he is a known quantity defensively. Holland isn't at this level. I agree long term he's the likely 2C. But the season is too short to be losing a game because a rookie had no clue who to cover while Selanne and Ryan were floating around IMO.
EDIT - Bonino had 18P in 50 games last year, which prorates to 30 points over 82 games (granted, with all the inaccuracies of prorating). Why would you not think he was capable of being a 30-40 point player?
We're just expecting it to blow up. It always blows up.