Speculation: Freddy to Canes for Pesce and Reims

[al secord]

I think it's just me. I have no idea what the word "rumour" actually means.

 

[Rob Brown]

Jeezus man lol put the link in haha.

There is no link. He made it up.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Jeezus man lol put the link in haha.

I did not hear it from those guys you mentioned above and quite frankly they no next to nothing about hockey

 

[al secord]

This is the OP who plays cards with Paul Marner, Dregs and Teddy Ruxpin?

 

[Merrrlin]

I'm not a Canes fan by any means but, even still, this post really doesn't make any sense (or at least isnt based in reality). Canes are 7th in GAA over the past 2 years and 10th over the past 3. Toronto, on the other hand, has hovered between 20th to 25th. I love Freddy Andersen, I think hes an above average starter and better than anyone the Canes have, but they are certainly making do.

If the Canes want to acquire Freddy (or a better impending UFA in Raanta), it won't take someone like Pesce. Not even close. On the other hand, if the Leafs want to add a top 3DMan with term, its going to cost a hell of a lot more than Andersen, and Andersen 100% will not be the main piece.

I agree the proposal is bad, but why are you here? This is the Leafs board, there are plenty of others to discuss this "rumor".

 

[Wafflewhipper]

If this happens we will see the value of that $4,00,000 they don’t have to pay freddy because of the signing bonus. I think this year i will be purchasing some new leafs gear and other stuff for the jids and i so they have the cash to keep doing this ha. I’m serious. I think it is a great time for me to do it.

I need a new jersey and a couple hats and t-shirts anyways

 

[Wafflewhipper]

I did not hear it from those guys you mentioned above and quite frankly they no next to nothing about hockey

Its friedman that said it.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

There is no link. He made it up.

I put a link in

 

[JT AM da real deal]

There is no link. He made it up.

Sharks, Sens and Marlie scouts older guys who drink with us at club we cobbled it together ... but it was for sh*ts and giggles ... from info various people know

 

[Wafflewhipper]

I did not hear it from those guys you mentioned above and quite frankly they no next to nothing about hockey

Where did you hear it from. Stomach growling subliminal messages or waaaa ha

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I agree the proposal is bad, but why are you here? This is the Leafs board, there are plenty of others to discuss this "rumor".

Thats 100% my mistake, I thought it on was the trade board. My apologies.

 

[DougGilmour93]

It’s Friedman on the score that suggested this

He never suggested a return of Pesce.
He mentioned Carolina May have interest in Freddie.

A lot of teams will though, Especially since he only makes 1million in actual money. (His cap hit is still 5mil) That will make him very attractive to cash strapped teams.

 

[lovemyleafs]

Where is the rumor?

his ass

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Its friedman that said it.

Friedman is a college fail/drop out who I would not have cleaning my XXXXXXC ... but hockey people are talking about Leafs floating Freddy and Canes interest ... Canes have told everyone they are reducing payroll significantly and want 2 kids defenders up ... Pesce is no guarantee to come back at full capacity so it would be a big risk to Leafs although could be a big reward too

 

[DougGilmour93]

Friedman is a college fail/drop out who I would not have cleaning my XXXXXXC ... but hockey people are talking about Leafs floating Freddy and Canes interest ... Canes have told everyone they are reducing payroll significantly and want 2 kids defenders up ... Pesce is no guarantee to come back at full capacity so it would be a big risk to Leafs although could be a big reward too

Again, that’s speculation. If this idea of Pesce and Reimer are your creation, it should have Proposal in the title.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

He never suggested a return of Pesce.
He mentioned Carolina May have interest in Freddie.

A lot of teams will though, Especially since he only makes 1million in actual money. (His cap hit is still 5mil) That will make him very attractive to cash strapped teams.

Yeah i know. I knew all about these signing bonuses everyone missed when they were undervaluing our players in trades. Before and after the Kappy trade.

 

[hamzarocks]

I too like to make deals where the leafs blindly win deals and other teams GMs give the leafs gifts. Why doesnt Dubas consult from geniuses like us?

 

[Mess]

Canes looking to reduce payroll and improve tending next year
Leafs looking for a right handed D to play with Rielly
Freddy only 1M next year with $5M CAP hit
Pesce 4 more years at $4M CAP hit but has injury recovery risk and they have deepest D core in league
Leafs get a long term deal for a solid top 4 2 way D man
Your thoughts?

The problem with this idea so many potential UFA goalies at Andersen level available ie

Jacob Markström, Robin Lehner, Braden Holtby, Thomas Greiss etc that why would Canes need to trade a top 4 dman like Pesce?

Canes would be interested in Leafs 1st rounder 15th overall to combine it with Leafs other former 13th overall to be included in any deal for Pesce. IMO

 

[A1LeafNation]

We paid a 1st for Carolina to eat 1.25m of Marleaus deal.

If we dealing Freddy to them and eating 4m for them, they better give us #13 back.

 

[Buds17]

I'm not seeing it. Carolina has the blueline depth, but a number of others reach UFA status prior to Pesce. That aside, as much as this should help our blueline, it just then makes the goaltending situation more of a question mark. It adds cap here as well. It might make more sense if Andersen re-signs with them upon the trade. If Pesce is enough of a question mark though, I'm not sure what Toronto's intention is here.

 

[MinJaBen]

Canes have told everyone they are reducing payroll significantly and want 2 kids defenders up

Do you have a source for this?

 

[JT AM da real deal]

The problem with this idea so many potential UFA goalies at Andersen level available ie

Jacob Markström, Robin Lehner, Braden Holtby, Thomas Greiss etc that why would Canes need to trade a top 4 dman like Pesce?

Canes would be interested in Leafs 1st rounder 15th overall to combine it with Leafs other former 13th overall to be included in any deal for Pesce. IMO

Not this year Canes think they are very close and tending held them back ... and they are reducing payroll in a big way ... Freddy gives them a better goalie for 1M per ... add 1M and reduce 7.5M next season in real cash savings ... all other goalies options are a ton of $$$ and Canes owner does not want to foot a big bill

 

[kb]

We paid a 1st for Carolina to eat 1.25m of Marleaus deal.

If we dealing Freddy to them and eating 4m for them, they better give us #13 back.

No, it was all of Marleau's deal including the bonus. $4.25 million.

 

[dangomon]

We paid a 1st for Carolina to eat 1.25m of Marleaus deal.

If we dealing Freddy to them and eating 4m for them, they better give us #13 back.

No, it was all of Marleau's deal including the bonus. $4.25 million.

It also had absolutely nothing to do with saving "real" money, we paid the first to save 6+ on the cap.

 

[Duckrider]

No, it was all of Marleau's deal including the bonus. $4.25 million.

Givin the situation you make that trade every time. Just should not have had too...