Rumor: Flames offer for Eichel: Tkachuk, 1st round pick, former 1st, and 2 prospects

[super6646]

Director of Flames marketing

 

[DFF]

Director of Flames marketing

What does that mean?

 

[super6646]

What does that mean?

No clue. Implication I get isn't good for the Flames though.

 

[DFF]

Tuch is better. Kind of similar styles tho. But Tuch is a great player already, whereas Coleman has the potential to be that but not quite there.

They are both 20 goal scorers. Coleman won a couple cups. Why one is great and not the other?

 

[crazyfisherman]

Tuch is better. Kind of similar styles tho. But Tuch is a great player already, whereas Coleman has the potential to be that but not quite there.

their numbers are extremely similar and coleman doesnt get the same opportunities

 

[DFF]

Eichel >>>> Tkachuk.

Nobody argues that assuming Eichel can be healthy again

 

[HSF]

Monahan has been a product from finishing Gaudreaus setups for the past 6 seasons. He's a 30 goal scorer if he has a strong playmaker setting him up, otherwise he's a very vanilla second liner who isn't able to make his linemates better or carry his own line.

Perfect for stutzle

 

[TheNumber4]

They are both 20 goal scorers. Coleman won a couple cups. Why one is great and not the other?

Cause one plays hockey better than the other.

 

[TheNumber4]

Nobody argues that assuming Eichel can be healthy again

Don’t need to assume. It’ll be a certainty. One of the most overblown injury worries ever. He’ll be at 100% once the proper recovery time happens.

 

[TheNumber4]

their numbers are extremely similar and coleman doesnt get the same opportunities

Numbers are overrated. Offered up around the League, Tuch gets way more.

 

[crazyfisherman]

Numbers are overrated. Offered up around the League, Tuch gets way more.

Only Tuch has going for him clearly is age, otherwise they are not different in terms of capabilities.

 

[TheNumber4]

Only Tuch has going for him clearly is age, otherwise they are not different in terms of capabilities.

We’re gonna have to agree to disagree. Tuch is a beast, Coleman is alright to good.

 

[AcerComputer]

Buffalo make out like Bandits

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

I bet Monahan is the main piece back to Buffalo.

I can see it being Monahan, Dube, two 1sts, Valimaki that gets it done.

If it's Monahan instead of Tkachuk (most likely) then at least 1 of Pelletier/Zary/Coronato will be involved too

 

[5 14 6 1]

Director of Flames marketing

Vegas going to LTIR Stone and swoop in in on Eichel?

 

[Fivealive5]

Vegas going to LTIR Stone and swoop in in on Eichel?

Should be forced to fold the team if they do something like this

 

[VaporTrail]

Watch Buffalo make this trade and then flip Tkachuk to Vegas lmao

What could Buffalo get from Vegas for Tkachuk ? Lol

 

[TheNumber4]

Vegas going to LTIR Stone and swoop in in on Eichel?

Some routine LTIR shenanigans could make the cap work out quite easily if they get Eichel.

 

[Perennial]

who says its significantly better? But I think everyone would agree it is the best you are ever going to get.

From what I have seen floating out there as Vegas's offers is Krebs, a first, a prospect and some cap dumping. Maybe this is to get Vegas to loosen up on draft picks or a player like Hague. Buffalo wants 4 1sts or equivalent from the offers that are floating out there Vegas is just short. This Calgary offer is definitely 4 firsts in value.

I said 'If' the offer is significantly better...

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Eichel >>>> Tkachuk.

Tkachuk is a selfish prick. I’m not too surprised Calgary would throw him in the mix actually.

It's generally better when you keep your personal opinions on a player off trade boards, you dont see people going into the monthly McDavid trade threads saying no one wants him because he's known for running goalies at mach 6. If you cant acknowledge that Tkachuk is a star winger in the league with excellent leadership skills, and only see him for how he pisses off your favourite team, then that's your own blinders that need removing.

 

[TheNumber4]

It's generally better when you keep your personal opinions on a player off trade boards, you dont see people going into the monthly McDavid trade threads saying no one wants him because he's known for running goalies at mach 6. If you cant acknowledge that Tkachuk is a star winger in the league with excellent leadership skills, and only see him for how he pisses off your favourite team, then that's your own blinders that need removing.

1. Opinions on players are fine in trade threads. It’s how you valuate.
2. There are no monthly trade McDavid threads.
3. If there were, no one would say that cause the best player of all time at making plays at top speed doesn’t run goalies often or nearly at all.
4. Tkachuk is a very good player. Star winger is a stretch. Leadership, a huge stretch but I could see people being fooled.
5. My assessment that Eichel is >>>> Tkachuk isn’t based on BoA beef. K well maybe two of those Greater Than signs are, but regardless Eichel is a superstar and Tkachuk just isn’t.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Cause one plays hockey better than the other.

What exactly are you basing that off of?

 

[TheNumber4]

What exactly are you basing that off of?

Certainly not team based stats that analytics are based on.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

1. Opinions on players are fine in trade threads. It’s how you valuate.
2. There are no monthly trade McDavid threads.
3. If there were, no one would say that cause the best player of all time at making plays at top speed doesn’t run goalies often or nearly at all.
4. Tkachuk is a very good player. Star winger is a stretch. Leadership, a huge stretch but I could see people being fooled.
5. My assessment that Eichel is >>>> Tkachuk isn’t based on BoA beef. K well maybe two of those Greater Than signs are, but regardless Eichel is a superstar and Tkachuk just isn’t.

Nobody is debating healthy Eichel is better than Tkachuk, I am saying your assessment of his personality is crap.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Certainly not team based stats that analytics are based on.

That image includes nearly 2 entire seasons of Coleman playing for New Jersey. Also don't act like Tuch is on some dumpster team either, Vegas has been the all around best team in the west for a while now