Flames hire Bill Peters as new head coach

[hockeykicker]

 

[Hulkacaniac]

I don't blame him. It's reported that Dundon doesn't want him back. So it's either exercise his option now and get one of the open jobs, or wait until a new GM comes in, get fired and maybe those available jobs are filled by then.

Yes, this is more of a firing the same way Francis being "reassigned" was a firing. Peters knew he wasn't being kept. Dundon gave him a full extra week to make his decision.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Wonder who Carolina will hire. But I bet he'll hire Kevin Dineen.

I think Dallas would be the best bet for Peters with all the talent they've got; but I think Klingberg worked out because of Hitchcock's system with defensemen.

But I think Calgary hires Peters.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Wonder who Carolina will hire. .

Maybe I'm wrong, but I would think they'd want to get a GM in place before hiring a coach. Won't surprise me if Velluci fills one of those roles.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

i loved those commercials. rip in peace pastor bill

 

[hockeykicker]

 

[M.C.G. 31]

I feel like Peters will have more success in Calgary with his system and actually having a goalie (as long as Smith keeps performing like he did pre-injury).

 

[glovesave_35]

It's official now so you might want to update the title.

Immediately begin the search for a coach despite not having a GM. Yeah probably not.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Immediately begin the search for a coach despite not having a GM. Yeah probably not.

In fairness, they can begin the search with Waddell currently the acting GM. I doubt they do all the interviewing and doubt they hire a guy until they get a GM, but they can start the legwork on a search, such as identifying candidates, asking teams for permission to speak to candidates, gauging interest, etc...

 

[Stickpucker]

Can any Canes fans give any assessment? Is he a good coach? Was the roster horrible or did he not get the most out of his bench?

He takes consistent offensive performers and turns them into bums

His players give him good effort and your team will transition up the ice well and dominate the cycle. The downside is his system leads to tons of peremiter offensive play. He also has no patience for "East West play". Those players will end up in his dog house. His teams are very disciplined and you won't take many penalties or you'll be in his dog house.

He did a good job at first with young players development but that fell off at the end. You will see lots of high danger chances against if your dmen can't skate amazingly well due to the tight gaps he expects in all situations. He never keeps his lines and players seem to have a hard time building chemistry.

Either way as Carolinas roster improved the results didn't and Bill is very stubbornly conservative. He also thought Eric Staal could no longer have it as a NHL center and forced him to the wing turning a consistent 75 pt center into a 35 pt wing.

...but he will turn your team into the media darlings if the NHL.

...oh... He will come with a gently used Derek Ryan he loves to use in all situations over your best players.

...last thing....you won't win in OT he has this weird 2 shutdown dmen with a 2 way forward fetish.....you will not score any OT goals...

Best of luck.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Oh boy that owner is looking like Melnyk 2.0

Not sure many will want to work down there with him.

 

[RodTheBawd]

Oh boy that owner is looking like Melnyk 2.0

Yeah Carolina should just continue playing by the rules of the Ol' Boys Club, it's working pretty well for them.

 

[Terry Yake]

i could see the canes going after a new face

someone like sheldon keefe or kris knoblauch

 

[Captain Mountain]

Yeah Carolina should just continue playing by the rules of the Ol' Boys Club, it's working pretty well for them.

I think its his reported cheapness that is comparable to Melnyk, not his philosophy towards running a team.

 

[Mickey Marner]

Solid hire for Calgary. They have a similar roster construction to the Canes, except a little stronger across the board.

 

[Unsustainable]

Flames are going to love Derek Ryan

 

[ONO94]

I think its his reported cheapness that is comparable to Melnyk, not his philosophy towards running a team.

The difference is his "reported" cheapness. Nothing other than unsubstantiated rumors for any of that. He fired a GM who hasn't been to the playoffs and wanted to fire a coach who's teams didn't make the playoffs for 4 years. Please tell me how any of that is wrong or cheap? A reporter outside of the market reports a rumor on a reported salary for a GM that was never confirmed and never expounded upon and those from areas not near Raleigh take it as the God's honest truth. Just like the rumors to the impending move to Quebec that happened.

 

[Kranix]

Flames are going to love Derek Ryan

A line of Stajan, Ryan and Brouwer in all key situations.

 

[tarheelhockey]

The difference is his "reported" cheapness. Nothing other than unsubstantiated rumors for any of that. He fired a GM who hasn't been to the playoffs and wanted to fire a coach who's teams didn't make the playoffs for 4 years. Please tell me how any of that is wrong or cheap? A reporter outside of the market reports a rumor on a reported salary for a GM that was never confirmed and never expounded upon and those from areas not near Raleigh take it as the God's honest truth. Just like the rumors to the impending move to Quebec that happened.

It may even be true that he's trying to spend less on front office staff. I could believe that.

To me, the key thing is that all of his other behavior since buying the team has been decidedly NOT cheap. People are taking one rumor about one aspect of this multi-stage process, and blowing it up into a generalization.

The funny thing is to see this criticism at the exact same time we have a main board thread where a free-spending owner in his 4th year writes a letter saying "I ****ed this all up".

 

[Stickpucker]

I feel like Peters will have more success in Calgary with his system and actually having a goalie (as long as Smith keeps performing like he did pre-injury).

How is he at high danger/2v1 scenarios?

 

[Captain Mountain]

The difference is his "reported" cheapness. Nothing other than unsubstantiated rumors for any of that. He fired a GM who hasn't been to the playoffs and wanted to fire a coach who's teams didn't make the playoffs for 4 years. Please tell me how any of that is wrong or cheap? A reporter outside of the market reports a rumor on a reported salary for a GM that was never confirmed and never expounded upon and those from areas not near Raleigh take it as the God's honest truth. Just like the rumors to the impending move to Quebec that happened.

Let's not pretend guys like LeBrun, Friedman or McKenzie are just "reporters from other markets". And the GM search isn't the only example of friction over money (Peter's compensation was another)And last I looked, Luke DeCock isn't some outside reporter. And honestly, it doesn't need to be expanded on. Candidates didn't like what was being offered and Dundon didn't want to offer more based on the interviews.

Melnyk's "cheapness" is also mostly reported too. He literally saved the Senator's franchise and has put a lot of money into it too. He's also involved in hockey decisions, has his own ideas and probably talks to much. But Melnyk also doesn't like spending a ton on hockey ops and coaching and Dundon seems to be reluctant there too.

 

[tarheelhockey]

How is he at high danger/2v1 scenarios?

In all seriousness, the Peters system would probably break Mike Smith.

 

[Bond]

Sounds like Glen Gulutzan

 

[Spirit of 67]

There was another thread earlier in the week on BP (I think) and I mentioned that the Calgary announcement would come this weekend.
Look for it.

As for an assessment, I don't watch the Canes much but enough to know one thing about them. The saying goes show me a good goalie and I'll show you a good coach. Their goaltending was horrid. So judge accordingly.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Probably a wise move by Peters.