Hmm
So esports isn’t athletic or a competition?
Who ever said that?
Hold on, here’s Shannon Sharpe and Joe Rogan saying esport players are atheletes;
You conveniently left out why Shannon Sharpe thinks it's a sport, his reasoning was that other people in the sports industry have bought esports teams, which is a pretty terrible argument for something being a sport. Skip Bayless, someone who watches sports for a living, said it wasn't a sport because there's nothing athletic about it, it's just a skill. Then Sharpe says "it's a mental sport," making a distinction between traditional sports and esports.
Rogan is talking about the comparison of snooker to esports, which doesn't really move the needle much. He also never says it's a sport in that video, he says it's skillful and happening in a digital realm.
I'd like to add that Rogan always mentions how he's a moron and knows nothing, so the fact you're using him (and a terrible out of context clip) as some sort of authority on the subject is sad.
Here’s Rick Fox saying the same;
Rick Fox starts off by using the fact that colleges give out scholarships to people for esports and that the federal government acknowledges esports players as athletes as evidence that they are. He also followed that up by saying that he's not there to debate where they "slot in" in comparison to traditional sports and then says, "they are digital athletes, professional digital athletes." Weird he calls them "digital athletes" if they're just athletes?
He then goes on to talk about how much commitment they have and how much money they make, which has nothing to do with whether something is or isn't a sport. After that he starts fumbling around with the word professional, professional gamer or basketball player, but that's not what is being debated. Professional gamers are professionals, they just aren't athletes.
At no point in either of these videos does anyone actually make a coherent argument for why professional gamers are athletes. They all talk about the same things, commitment, reflexes, mental toughness, the money, etc. but never about actual athleticism. If you don't think athleticism is required for something to be a sport then that's a you problem.
These guys are atheletes. I’ve also stated that I streamed with Bryce Harper and he considers esport gamers atheletes.
Great.
Now, do I consider the opinion of actual atheletes? Or randos on a message board who have never played in money tournaments yet claim they have without any proof?
I get it, many here have played video games and think because the are familiar with them they are suddenly experts at them. It doesn’t work that way, but ok.
Wait a second, if actual athletes (funny you use that term, eh?) have never played video games at the level you're claiming we need to have played at in order to have an opinion, how come they get to have an opinion? Traditionally speaking, they're probably less qualified to determine this since they dedicate most of their time to their professions.
There’s a huge disconnect because of it and the issue is 98% of the members here are not good at video games so they want to bring down the kids who actually are.
Is good gamer shaming a thing, now?
I’ll make it easy, no, you guys are not atheletes, because you are not good at gaming.
Nobody wants to bring them down and nobody is shaming them. I watch a lot of them, I've played against some of them, I think it's an incredible talent but you'll just strawman until you die because you're incapable of doing anything else.
I'll make it easy, you're not good at logic.
I, actually am good at gaming as currently I am a .1% player at FN and have started playing Apex and will move up that quickly also, am not an athelete compared to these kids and unlike everyone here I’ve actually played against them and are currently ranked higher then FaZe’s entire FN team.
These kids are atheletes. It depends on who you actually believe, real atheletes saying they are, or ppl on the internet
If you're better than FaZe, but you're not an athlete, why are they?
Once again you're not actually making an argument, you're just trying to belittle others.
One person said he beat ninja, big deal. Beat ninja over and over and over like these kids can or beat ninja when ninja was in his prime.
Cherry picking again, cute. I also said I beat Grubby, Stephano, and a few others in SCII but you'll conveniently leave that out. Weird that some random internet scrub was able to match up with these athletic specimens in multiple games.
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I really hope you make it in esports because you're reasoning skills are putrid and I'd be legitimately scared for others if you ever did anything else. You appeal to authority and strawman, all while ignoring any specific questions.
Making money, being difficult, and having a ranking system doesn't make something a sport. You still haven't explained why only people who are paid should be considered athletes, but why that isn't true for traditional sports.
