FA/Trade Thread 2014-15 Season V.7 - MOD warning post#877

[yubbers]

Na. Just need a Centre

1 piece. What if Stammer does come home? We'd all be like "if only Phil were here"

 

[ChuckWoods]

i think the point is that they don't have to find just two additional top line players, they have to find two 1st line players that are perfect fits with him.

spend more time trying to cover his shortcomings or just start from scratch under your own vision (Shanny/Dubas)

Chuck, how involved is Hunter? any chance his brother is spotted for some coaching position with the leafs?

I certainly thing he will be a coaching option.

I think we will see a contending 3 of;

1. Babcock
2. Deboer
3. Hunter

 

[613Leafer]

Allegedly one is internal, and some people seem to believe it could be based on the performance of Nylander. He is in Toronto to see if he can be brought in to take a job sooner rather than later.

The other is based on another team and its personelle changes. I believe that would open two doors of opportunity for the Leafs on the trade front.

This team HAS options, has ideas and discussions in place but even if it sounds vague, these moves arnt soley based on Leaf managment decisions since Shanny and Dubas are willing to wait it out until the deadline, allegedly.

Interesting post, thanks for the info. Im glad to hear they have a number of things lined up, and that it sounds like there will be some kind of semi-significant change to the roster.

 

[Daisy Jane]

Agreed, I think most would.

then just give Kadri, Bozak's money.
quite simple.

 

[Leafin]

I wouldn't move Kadri out until Nylander is far and a way better. Even then, why not keep both.

 

[mydnyte]

Na. Just need a Centre

1 piece. What if Stammer does come home? We'd all be like "if only Phil were here"

with our current roster we couldnt afford him even if he wanted to come here
...we'll likely need a bare minimum of $10mill + in cap space, and that will be hard to free up unless Kessel/Phaneuf arent dealt. ...or we unload Clarkson, Lupul and whomever else.

 

[jmart21]

then just give Kadri, Bozak's money.
quite simple.

You won't get Kadri for Bozak money.

 

[yubbers]

with our current roster we couldnt afford him even if he wanted to come here
...we'll likely need a bare minimum of $10mill + in cap space, and that will be hard to free up unless Kessel/Phaneuf arent dealt. ...or we unload Clarkson, Lupul and whomever else.

So essentially, landing a number 1 Centre after giving Kadri 6 million makes it extra umpossible?

Hmmmm

I hope Lupul getting shipped out is a given

 

[mydnyte]

So essentially, landing a number 1 Centre after giving Kadri 6 million makes it extra umpossible?

Hmmmm

I hope Lupul getting shipped out is a given

I'd sooner trade Kadri than give him 6mil

 

[Muston Atthews]

Going to one of the best teams in the OHL (I'm not sure I agree with them being Canada's best junior team) doesn't necessarily equate to a boost in points. His point total was actually pretty strong in London.

I don't think he'll be getting top line time with them honestly, which I think will limit his point potential. It will make Oshawa stronger, and bigger, but I'm not sure it's the best for him from a pure production standpoint (he's only a PPG since moving to Oshawa, granted it's only been 5 games.

I'm saying they're the best junior team in Canada on a purely record-based assessment.

 

[Celly Hard]

Sounds to me like you could be hinting at Nylander possibly making a guy like Kadri trade bait.

Who is this other team?



For me I take the keep Kessel path. It's easier to acquire 2 more top line players than it is to move Phil and acquire 3.

Phil is the best player this team has seen in a long time.

the only way you acquire a true 1C is through the draft. So no, it wouldnt be that easy. If we deal phil we would get a great chance to draft a true 1C with the draft crop this year.

Rielly and Kadri are prime examples of how this franchise should begin shaping its roster. Draft your own players and develop them. It's the only way.

 

[1995]

I certainly thing he will be a coaching option.

I think we will see a contending 3 of;

1. Babcock
2. Deboer
3. Hunter

Thanks for the posts Chuck. I hope we hire all three of those guys.

 

[p.l.f.]

can you win with Kessel and Phaneuf making 7 or 8 mil per ?
there's little left to spend right now on what they really need - a #1 center and #1 D.
If you rid of Lupul Gardiner Bozak Robidas there's over 15 mil to spend
About 5 million of that needed to keep Kadri and Franson

10 million gets you 1 of the 2 (1c or 1d)
Letting Franson go gives might give you about 15 million to get both if lucky

It would be a lot easier just to trade Kessel and Phaneuf, and build a better core with that extra money

 

[jmart21]

can you win with Kessel and Phaneuf making 7 or 8 mil per ?
there's little left to spend right now on what they really need - a #1 center and #1 D.
If you rid of Lupul Gardiner Bozak Robidas there's over 15 mil to spend
About 5 million of that needed to keep Kadri and Franson

10 million gets you 1 of the 2 (1c or 1d)
Letting Franson go gives might give you about 15 million to get both if lucky

It would be a lot easier just to trade Kessel and Phaneuf, and build a better core with that extra money

Having enough to spend isn't the precursor to landing a 1C and 1D. You aren't finding those things with money.

You aren't building a core with money.

 

[yubbers]

Robidas sure takes a lot of heat considering he leads the team d in +/- my a wide margin. For the money he's getting and the leadership he provides, he ain't going anywhere. Only in this city does Robi suck and Polak is a hero

 

[pspot]

They'll need a selke level c to carry Kessel/JVR

Maybe. ROR is that guy.

Something around bozak and gardiner for ror and siemens

The issue is that's no sure thing. So if it doesn't work your 2 or 3 more years in and his value declines

Or you trade youth for a known level player, ie thornton but that makes your window the next 2. Or 3 years. And if they can't make it happen you've set yourself even further back

 

[Stand Witness]

Allegedly Shanny and Dubas have made their initial decisions on player personelle and are ready to pull the trigger.

They allegedly have a few "loose" deals in place which may transpire prior to the deadline pending on a couple dominos which one has already been partially set in motion.

This team WILL get a face lift, and I have faith in Shanny and Dubas to make it at the appropriate time.

I leave Nonis name out for a reason, I dont believe he is pulling the strings or here for the long haul, so he wont factor in long term decisions.

I understand if you may not know specifics when it comes to players or that you may not want to name them due to backlash if a trade doesn't go through/never happens but have their been specifics thrown out? Do these changes mean shipping out UFA's instead of holding onto them or does it mean players with term?

Is it the Lupul/Franson/Gardiner/Phaneuf that have been speculated for a while now or could we see a bigger name like Kessel/JVR thrown in there?

Thanks again Chuck.

 

[CerebralDevil]

I have my money on kadri. Management's as worried as i am about his upcoming contract demands

I think you are wrong IMO and think it's Gardiner. I believe Percy is the one ready to jump into the line up better than Gardiner and his consistent inconsistencies. Percy is playing better two way hockey and Gardiner with that contract isn't playing worth it. Time to shed some players that are not full filling their contracts. I still believe there will be a trade with Edm or NJ involving Clarkson.

 

[ACC1224]

the only way you acquire a true 1C is through the draft. So no, it wouldnt be that easy. If we deal phil we would get a great chance to draft a true 1C with the draft crop this year.

Rielly and Kadri are prime examples of how this franchise should begin shaping its roster. Draft your own players and develop them. It's the only way.

One way, not the only way.

 

[DrizzyTO]

can you win with Kessel and Phaneuf making 7 or 8 mil per ?
there's little left to spend right now on what they really need - a #1 center and #1 D.
If you rid of Lupul Gardiner Bozak Robidas there's over 15 mil to spend
About 5 million of that needed to keep Kadri and Franson

10 million gets you 1 of the 2 (1c or 1d)
Letting Franson go gives might give you about 15 million to get both if lucky

It would be a lot easier just to trade Kessel and Phaneuf, and build a better core with that extra money

Makes you wonder how Chicago can keep Toews, Kane, and Sharp and Keith eh?

Nah, we're not trading Kessel or Phaneuf.

 

[dubplatepressure]

Makes you wonder how Chicago can keep Toews, Kane, and Sharp and Keith eh?

Nah, we're not trading Kessel or Phaneuf.

It's lonely being alone in the room, eh?

 

[DrizzyTO]

It's lonely being alone in the room, eh?

It's fine since I'm in the same room as Shanny and company.