if they send him down I hope they dont send him to Toledo, we are winning here.
Someone spam Ansar Khan/Helen St. James on twitter to ask Holland/Babcock about Cleary. I want to see what they genuinely think of him this season.
Mike Babcock on Danny Cleary:
"Well he's been working hard and doing what he needs to do, he's just been snakebitten. You know ehhh he's a big body who works hard every shift that we can use in any situation. He is a great locker room guy and works hard out there, aye."
I think this team is also much better keeping Datsyuk and Zetterberg split up, adds a lot to the depth. I think this is a year to put Filppula back on the third line as well, to add to the depth. He's not scoring like last year, and having him on the third line would help with the resigning process.
Nyquist - Datsyuk - Bertuzzi
Franzen - Zetterberg - Brunner
Tatar - Filppula - Tootoo
Abdelkater - Helm - Miller
You know, you could keep Dats/Zetterberg together. They did show moments of the old magic last night. Emmerton is developing into an adequate centerman, and Anderson hasn't been terrible either.
Z-Dats-Brunner
Franzen-Filppula-Nyquist
Tatar-Helm-Tootoo << I would love to see this line iced. Three little balls of fury.
Emmerton + any combo of Miller/Eaves/Abby/Bert
imo, that's 3 really strong lines, if Nyquist is who we think he is. I am kinda drooling over that third line right now. The speed, the skill, the grinding power. You could roll those lines. The fourth line isn't too bad either. You put Bert and Miller on there and that's a decent bit of skill with some speed.
We have to accept the fact that Cleary will be in the lineup every game this year unless he gets hurt. As sad as that sounds.
The only thing we can realistically hope for is that Holland isn't stupid enough to re-sign him after the season.
We need to have a rule that every theoretical lineup has to have Cleary in the top-nine.
Let's be realistic guys.
EDIT: What BPP said^^
His offense is non existent. I really don't see what you see in him. 2 points in 15 games?
Someone spam Ansar Khan/Helen St. James on twitter to ask Holland/Babcock about Cleary. I want to see what they genuinely think of him this season.
I hope Cleary gets a non-threatening, non-painful, non-significant injury that only allows him to play a max of 10 minutes per game.
I hope Cleary gets a non-threatening, non-painful, non-significant injury that only allows him to play a max of 10 minutes per game.
He already has it, problem is the coaches haven't taken notice. He needs to play the role of Maltby late in his career, a 4th line penalty killer
The worst was Cleary's 26 goal season. It made Babcock think he is much better than he actually is, and he is still riding that reputation out today.
Really? Before his 26 goal season, discounting 09-10 when his knees imploded on him, he had 3 straight years of at least 40 points.
It's hard to criticize when you have no reasoning presented by the staff for such moves.
Really? Before his 26 goal season, discounting 09-10 when his knees imploded on him, he had 3 straight years of at least 40 points. He isn't riding the reputation of a 26 goal scorer 2 years ago. He's riding the reputation of a solid two-way player who can chip in on offense when healthy. Perhaps that's why he has a long leash and mysteriously gets minutes we don't think he deserves. Coaches like Babcock who like to assign a certain role to certain player(s) can be stubborn as well as very patient when it comes to players like Cleary who play a certain role Babcock wants filled. They can be patient perhaps to a fault. 15 games of poor play without an excuse is usually not enough to warrant benching in their eyes.
Who knows. It's all weird, really. Filppula is playing hurt and gets criticized. Cleary could be playing hurt and doesn't get criticized... Questions that are probably left unanswered. Until I actually know what's going on... It's hard to criticize when you have no reasoning presented by the staff for such moves.
Yeah, on an absolutely stacked roster.
Call up Callahan to replace Cleary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2H8kx6J9puY
Call up Callahan to replace Cleary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2H8kx6J9puY
Yeah... And Kris Draper put up 29, 17, and 17 points in the same span on an absolutely stacked roster. Your point?
Hahaha here's one for you bud.
Kris Draper at age 34- 32 points.
Dan Cleary at age 34- 33 points.
That 29 point season was Draper at age 35. Which looks pretty good to the season Dan Cleary is currently putting up at age 34/35.
The way Cleary is rapdily declining he'll probably do worse than draper the next 3 years in point totals, if he can stay in the league that long. I'm going to bet he can't. Draper also played center and was great at draws.
Hudler put up 57 points in those years to show what an actually talented offensive forward could do on that stacked roster in a similar role and similar minutes.
Your point?