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Boltsfan2029 said:Acquired via trade from San Jose which acquired it via trade from the Panthers. We've never won the lottery or "won" a first overall pick.
OK, then I'm sure Tampa would have 1 ball then.
Boltsfan2029 said:Acquired via trade from San Jose which acquired it via trade from the Panthers. We've never won the lottery or "won" a first overall pick.
arrbez said:as a Leaf fan, this whole situation irks me
in the "how will your team do next year" threads, all I hear from opposing fans is how terrible the Leafs are going to be, how they'll have to buy everyone out, how their 3rd and 4th lines will be made up of AHL'ers, etc
and yet everyone freaks out at the thought of this team in a supposed crisis getting a high pick
Shouldn't it be factored in that the Penguins traded for the 1st overall pick?ryanlambert said:# of balls per team under this system...
3: NY Rangers, Columbus
2: Chicago, Minnesota, Calgary, Nashville
1: Philadelphia, New Jersey, Carolina, Florida, Detroit, St. Louis, Colorado, Boston, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Buffalo, Vancouver, Edmonton, San Jose, Dallas, Los Angeles, Anaheim, Phoenix, Atlanta
0: Washington, Tampa Bay, Pittsburgh, NY Islanders
Well it won't happen, my friend. These teams have exceptional personnel and can make any team contenders within 2-3 years. The thing with perennial losers is that usually their coaching and other staff members aren't anything more than average. You can hate the Leafs all you want (and trust me, I do), but they run a tight ship. Same with Detroit. They just snagged Babcock and added him to a still decent team that'll add players through their very good scouting. These are still big-markets. That won't change. Players wanna play where people see them and where more than 15 seconds of the news are devoted to them.T@T said:So whos to blame for the situation that the leafs are going into? Bettman? please!! The Leafs and others are to blame for the lockout in the first place and were warned at least 2 years ago and chose not to listen. Sucks yes maybe for the fans,but now you may finally see what it was like to be a fan of a rebuilding team that has to use GM skills for success instead of buying teams to compete.
A little evil part of me wants teams like the Leafs,Detroit..etc to miss the playoffs for 7 straight years so i can churp back at their fans
Jacobv2 said:Shouldn't it be factored in that the Penguins traded for the 1st overall pick?
If yes, then Florida would have 0 and the Penguins would have 1.
T@T said:So whos to blame for the situation that the leafs are going into? Bettman? please!! The Leafs and others are to blame for the lockout in the first place and were warned at least 2 years ago and chose not to listen. Sucks yes maybe for the fans,but now you may finally see what it was like to be a fan of a rebuilding team that has to use GM skills for success instead of buying teams to compete.
But the Penguins didn't gain any value unfairly. It was Florida that "won" something. And then they traded it and got what they thought to be fair value. The Penguins didn't really win anything. They paid a fair price for the 1st overall pick.NYRangers said:They should be be 'punished' or neither should.
The team that actually made the pick got the first player.
However whoever traded it obviously felt they were compensated.
NYR469 said:barring something drastic like all RFAs being declared UFAs, teams aren't going to change that drastically. teams for the most part will keep their good players under 31 keeping the foundation of the team similar
some older teams might see a big drop as they lose guys and some younger teams might get a big boost by being able to add some available free agents, but i don't think the balance of power will instantly shift. it isn't like they are throwing everyone into a pool and starting over from scratch. ottawa will still go into the season with hossa, havlat, spezza, redden, etc
MontrealCruiser_83 said:Well it won't happen, my friend. These teams have exceptional personnel and can make any team contenders within 2-3 years. The thing with perennial losers is that usually their coaching and other staff members aren't anything more than average. You can hate the Leafs all you want (and trust me, I do), but they run a tight ship.
Jacobv2 said:But the Penguins didn't gain any value unfairly. It was Florida that "won" something. And then they traded it and got what they thought to be fair value. The Penguins didn't really win anything. They paid a fair price for the 1st overall pick.
Look at it as if the Panthers drafted Fleury 1st overall and dealt him the next day to the Pens for Horton and a 2nd rounder.
I thought the general rule was every team had a chance so 1 is the min for all 30 teams .Jacobv2 said:Shouldn't it be factored in that the Penguins traded for the 1st overall pick?
If yes, then Florida would have 0 and the Penguins would have 1.
e-townchamps said:there NEEDS to be a weighted lottery system....no way Colorado, Detroit, Toronto should have an equal chance at Crosby when these team consistanly make the playoff every year and go deep...
ryanlambert said:# of balls per team under this system...
3: NY Rangers, Columbus
2: Chicago, Minnesota, Calgary, Nashville
1: Philadelphia, New Jersey, Carolina, Florida, Detroit, St. Louis, Colorado, Boston, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Buffalo, Vancouver, Edmonton, San Jose, Dallas, Los Angeles, Anaheim, Phoenix, Atlanta
0: Washington, Tampa Bay, Pittsburgh, NY Islanders
York16 said:Also, Gretzky will be the new coach of the Coyotes, but he won't coach all the away games; Rick Tocchet will fill in there.
http://hockeyrumors.blogspot.com/
T@T said:So whos to blame for the situation that the leafs are going into? Bettman? please!! The Leafs and others are to blame for the lockout in the first place and were warned at least 2 years ago and chose not to listen. Sucks yes maybe for the fans,but now you may finally see what it was like to be a fan of a rebuilding team that has to use GM skills for success instead of buying teams to compete.
A little evil part of me wants teams like the Leafs,Detroit..etc to miss the playoffs for 7 straight years so i can churp back at their fans
ryanlambert said:they should give it to whatever team's captain can guess the number bettman is thinking of.
Scugs said:wtf, why would a coach not coach away games?
I think it's already been confirmed that the draft date was August 6th.
NataSatan666 said:A little evil part of me wants any team that constantly loses money to fold.
Au contraire. I'm pretty sure Tampa won first overall in 1999. Chicago won the lottery, but they started in eighth place, so they only moved up to fourth overall. Tampa subsequently traded the first pick to Vancouver, who in turn traded it to Atlanta.Boltsfan2029 said:Acquired via trade from San Jose which acquired it via trade from the Panthers. We've never won the lottery or "won" a first overall pick.