Eklund: Weighted Draft Info

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  1. FLYLine27*

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    Just thought I throw it on out there.

    Weighted = :handclap:
     
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    they can't go back more than 4 years cause prior to that there weren't 30 teams...you can't include seasons where certain teams didn't exist.
     
  3. RangerBoy

    RangerBoy TRUST THE PROCESS

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    Didn't this nimrod write the lottery would be 30 balls/30 teams earlier today? :shakehead
     
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    It makes no sense at all because the #1 overall pick has been traded and the worst teams didn't always win the lottery.

    I would rather see 30 balls and select the draft order this way than some insane weighted system that was designed to satisfy the big markets anyway.
     
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    this is just silly -- if Eckland has more creditability then the Los Angeles Times then, he's amazing. The much talked discussed Los Angeles Times report said that "A source also said each team will have an equal chance in the lottery for the No. 1 pick in this year's entry draft." but who do you believe more the L.A. Times or a guy who creates his own rumors?
     

  6. Wow, that's a silly idea.
    What does your record from five years ago have to do with today?
     
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    # of balls per team under this system...

    3: NY Rangers, Columbus

    2: Chicago, Minnesota, Calgary, Nashville

    1: Philadelphia, New Jersey, Carolina, Florida, Detroit, St. Louis, Colorado, Boston, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Buffalo, Vancouver, Edmonton, San Jose, Dallas, Los Angeles, Anaheim, Phoenix, Atlanta

    0: Washington, Tampa Bay, Pittsburgh, NY Islanders
     
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    Sure you can, just count it as a non playoff season. It's not like an expansion team has a chance at a play-off spot anyways.
     
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    This is for Eklund

    From Ken Campbell of the Toronto Star on May 18

    Each team starts with four balls in the lottery.

    Teams lose a ball for each year they qualified for the playoffs in the past four seasons.

    Teams also lose a ball if they have had the first overall selection in any of the past four drafts.

    Each team is guaranteed at least one ball


    http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...970081593064&DPL=IvsNDS/7ChAX&tacodalogin=yes

    The Rangers and Columbus would each have four balls and a 6.7% chance of winning the lottery.Columbus acquired the Rick Nash pick in a trade with Florida which had the #1 pick in 2002

    Teams with one ball would have a 1.7% chance of winning the lottery
     
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    Yeah and TSN reported the lottery would be weighted.I believe TSN over the LA Times

    TSN refuted the equal chance lottery

    One of them was that when the NHL entry draft lottery is held to determine order of selection that every team will have an equal chance -- one in 30 -- of getting the first overall pick and the right to choose phenom Sidney Crosby.

    Sources tell TSN that when the lottery is conducted, it will be a slightly weighted lottery, giving the teams that have performed poorly over the last three or four seasons a slightly better chance than those who have performed well.


    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=129820
     
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    Bob McKenzie was on here either yesterday or on Tuesday maintaining the lottery would be a weighted lottery
     
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    They should take the number of years a team has been in the league, divide that by how many cups they have.

    The team with the worst rating, gets first pick.

    Or just give the 1st pick to a Canadian team on the west coast :D.
     
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    don't worry about it
    they should give it to whatever team's captain can guess the number bettman is thinking of.
     
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    Oh, now he is your trusted source? Oh how times change.
     
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    I was thinking the GM's should play rock paper scizzors, but your idea is a good one too......
     
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    there NEEDS to be a weighted lottery system....no way Colorado, Detroit, Toronto should have an equal chance at Crosby when these team consistanly make the playoff every year and go deep...
     
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    :)
     
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    TSN also reported a weighted lottery today

    "Sources tell TSN that when the lottery is conducted, it will be a slightly weighted lottery, giving the teams that have performed poorly over the last three or four seasons a slightly better chance than those who have performed well."
     
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    But since Columbus was the team to make that pick, doesn't it stand to reason that the pick would be accredited to them? If Florida had picked Nash and traded him to the BJ's, then the scenario you're describing makes sense, but my reading of the draft lottery is that whichever team picked first (i.e., Atlanta, Columbus, Pittsburgh, Washington) loses that single chance.
     
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    Bob McKenzie's word is good enough for me. If he says it is weighted, I am going to believe that it is weighted.
     
  21. That's an awful system. 5 years? I'm sorry, but two years is the max.


    This is much better:

    Each team starts with 3 balls

    If you've made the playoffs twice in the past two years, you lose two balls.

    If you've made the playoffs once in the past two years, you lose one ball.
     
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    I agree, but I'm a Kings fan so Im biased!
     
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    Yea.. that's great.. :loony:
     
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    Leave it alone,my SC finalist Flames still get one more ball than the Oilers :D
     
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    I wouldn't put too much faith in anything the phantom blogger is reporting. All he is doing the last two day is quoting other sources that any of us could find just as easily. In one day he's posted two different draft senarios. You throw enough poo against the wall something is bound to stick.
     
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