Confirmed with Link: [EDM/CHI] Duncan Keith for Caleb Jones and a 3rd | Pt.2

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Hawks are trading for Fleury apparently. Domino effect of Holland failing to get them to take Koskinen back.

Imagine if they give up less for MAF.

 

[Jesus]

They also need to re-sign Larsson or replace him.

As for right now, they have $11,532,379 in space to fill all those holes.

Well Neal and/or Koski HAS to go.

But even then kinda tough to be optimistic seeing what players Holland has brought to the Oilers during his tenure.

 

[Samus44]

Cooke was a POS and took a run at Keith's head earlier, good on him to head hunt him back. Carter was being a dick. Stick to the face is a little much but nice to have some sandpaper on our blue line. Other than Larson and nurse everyone is pretty nice back there.

I think both were appropriate. You need to do that as a skill player. McDrai have both been getting that element in their game and it's been nice to see.

 

[Del Preston]

Need someone to tell me this isn't real.

That was bad. And you know he's been sitting on that for two weeks.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

I truly feel sorry for you guys. Wings fan coming in peace. Holland is so clueless.

 

[Del Preston]

Wrong thread.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

I truly feel sorry for you guys. Wings fan coming in peace. Holland is so clueless.

Can we have Yzerman? Sorry for ending his career.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Can we have Yzerman? Sorry for ending his career.

For McDavid.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

I really hope Keith retires after this season because that extra $9M in cap space the season of Nurse's raise would make this the greatest trade of all time.

And it would f*** over the Hawks.

Hmm honestly if Keith retires and opens up 9 million in cap next season suddenly Ken Holland looks like a genius. Now lets all pray he retires next year.

 

[KCC]

Shades of Lowe's infamous six rings remark.

Yeah, he def put up the defensive shield and tried to deflect. Didn't even try and hide it. lol

 

[Aceboogie]

Hmm honestly if Keith retires and opens up 9 million in cap next season suddenly Ken Holland looks like a genius. Now lets all pray he retires next year.

No he doesnt lol. You cant count the 5.5 cap hit he has, since if you never added him toud avoid 5.5 in cap. Is a GM a genius if he signed player for 7 mil for 4 years, and they retired 2 years in. That's 7 mil in cap opened up right.

The 3.9 mil would be cap that has been created.

So yeah, if Keith retires after 1 year we traded Jones and 3rd for one year of Keith (in which hes 3.9 mil overpaid) and 3.9 mil in cap space

Still a terrible trade

 

[KCC]

Need someone to tell me this isn't real.

Only Gene can get away with saying things like this. That was cringe af.

 

[oobga]

Played 23 minutes with absolutely horrendous results. Like, worse than Jack Johnson results

Maximum Schedule B bonus results! Which is all he cared about playing 4th forward to get the points he needed. The ice time promised to him to guarantee hitting TOI triggers for bonuses were part of that of course.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

No he doesnt lol. You cant count the 5.5 cap hit he has, since if you never added him toud avoid 5.5 in cap. Is a GM a genius if he signed player for 7 mil for 4 years, and they retired 2 years in. That's 7 mil in cap opened up right.

The 3.9 mil would be cap that has been created.

So yeah, if Keith retires after 1 year we traded Jones and 3rd for one year of Keith (in which hes 3.9 mil overpaid) and 3.9 mil in cap space

Still a terrible trade

Yeah true we also added in a 3rd round pick for some f***ing reason because Bowman has to have photos of Holland naked or something. But hey at least now there's some hope that it can get better. #pleaseretireDuncanKeith

 

[Hockeylife2018]

It's hard to play every second night. Goalie in particular is a very tiring position. (I was a goalie as a kid, a battler like Smith)

I lifted weights in highschool...
Ya, you could call me a professional bodybuilder...I know the struggles Arnold had.

 

[sportsdynasty]

Holland gets fleeced once again. Green, Athanasiou, and now Keith. Keith has a huge cap hit of $5.54M for two seasons. I'd rather pay Tyson Barrie that salary since Barrie is better at this point in their careers. Plus Chicago gets a 3rd round pick. Fire Holland and Nicholson!!

 

[VainGretzky]

If anybody thinks losing the top scoring dman in the league and adding a 38 year old ready for the pasture makes this team better please seek help

 

[DethOfDragnz]

I was hoping the Oilers didn't sign him but he is a part of the team now lets hope it all works out.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Watch the Oilers win 3 rounds in the playoffs but Keith finishes 5th in ice time so part two of the conditions aren't met. The league will then conduct a review and prorate Keith's ice time to top 4 minutes and give Chicago the 2nd round pick.

Yes, I know that means the Oilers would be in the SCF but I'm just waiting to get f***ed by the league somehow on this.

 

[Cloned]

Watch the Oilers win 3 rounds in the playoffs but Keith finishes 5th in ice time so part two of the conditions aren't met. The league will then conduct a review and prorate Keith's ice time to top 4 minutes and give Chicago the 2nd round pick.

Yes, I know that means the Oilers would be in the SCF but I'm just waiting to get f***ed by the league somehow on this.

The Oilers will win 2 rounds and the league will prorate it to 3.

 

[NotAVacuumSalesman]

The cupboard's about to go dry again. WTF is Holland doing????

 

[ilovetheshowlost]

I really hope we get Eichel, or Hall, or Hamilton, or something big and noteworthy. That will make this whole Keith deal seem better to me

 

[McVirginOil]

Nugent-Bowman and Rishaug vs Holland in the presser:

 

[North]

If Keith is awful why did he play above him? I like Zadorov too and given his age he'd likely be a great option but you got to play the hand you're dealt. I'm not saying it's a slam dunk I'm just saying it's not the end of the world and could even be a great trade. You're reasonable so I'm not trying to lecture you but I'll tell you where I'm coming from. We don't actually know all the info as far as say Seattle as a suitor, Chicago's willingness to tell Keith too bad if retention is needed, actual scouting, better analytics not fan ones, or what the future will bring. What I think though is that if Keith can skate still, and he sure as hell could a year ago, I don't see how he's suddenly forgot how to play hockey which he would of had to not to be a quality 2LD given how exceptionally talented he is. This is a guy who was a very good to elite talent for like 15 years. I thought he was the best player in the world in 2010. I for one am going to be optimistic given it's Duncan f***ing Keith and not say Andrew Ference (I always thought he was a 3rd pair guy at best). I like to hope for the best once a player becomes an Oiler, I'm a fan, but this was a deal I was bullish on as soon as I heard it was possible. Retention would have been great but I won't call it a fail till the player actually plays. When it's a guy who was playing 23 minutes last year coming back and his name is Duncan Keith I don't think optimism is unreasonable.

I’m actually on the same page as you.

I’m fine with this. Would I have preferred some retention? Yes but it didn’t happen.

 

[snipes]

Watch Keith put a huge year now that we’re all in full hit the panic button mode.

I hope he comes in motivated and hungry. I’m sure he’s hearing all the noise about how he’s finished and how terrible this trade was, etc.